LT Mirror Installation (Photos and Installation Tips)

[bstein]

[Team WorldTour]

I posted this on your other thread of the same topic. I'm repeating myself here for benefit of this thread.

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[michaeltag]

Read your excellent write-up but I'm still stumped on something ...
In the picture I'm posting here, the piece on the left is for the lower mount and its fit is really obvious and I've installed the lower mount with it in place, no problem. However, I've tried to line up this upper piece (on the right in the photo) every which way on the right side of the van (it is marked right and was packed with the right side mirror) and it just doesn't work. Is the thick part supposed to sit outside of the mount on the window frame? There is not a hollow void under the mount for thick part to fit into, which was where I thought it went at first.
You didn't mention the orientation of the shims in your write-up. Thanks for the details on rivet nuts, though. I'm going to get those.
Could you give me a tip on that upper shim?

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[bstein]

[GypsyDriver]

[designer]

the bottom of mine leave a gap where the old mirror was. Has anybody come up with a good idea to cover that?

[bstein]

[GypsyDriver]

Looks good. I like the hex nuts. I was looking for those when I did mine, but couldn't find them. What size are they and what was your source? Did you black them out? If I had to do it over, I'd still use the rivet nuts. I feel a little more secure about it with a threaded insert. But I'd use RTV instead of painting. Still ... zero problems so far.

[bstein]

Great write-up and thanks for posting!

I just did this yesterday. My installation turned into a bit of a brief nightmare on both sides b/c I'm a slow learner. All is well, as the mirrors are installed and looking pretty sweet. (The first syncro I test drove had these and the visibility put them on my todo list immediately.)

As stated in the original post be extremely careful on alignment on installation. I thought I was threaded into the nutsert and wasn't. Removing an unseated nutsert in each door made the installed a wee bit longer than expected.

After fixing that, I ended up opening up the two top outer mounting holes 1mm (using a 7mm bit), masking/painting the bare metal, and reinstalling. The additional play allowed easier alignment; installation is just as solid on both sides. Also I just used RTV on the nutsert vs. masking/painting and decided on hex heads. May none of us experience rust!

IMHO, I like having threaded mounts in the door now that I'm done with it. Functionally for installation it would be more straight forward and less fraught to use self-taping metal screw for an item that doesn't functionally require frequent removal.

Brian
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[ng]

I bought a set of the heated mirrors from Syncro Services

http://syncro-services.com/en/accessoriesexternal

I couldn't get much info on the wire routing from them, and now that I have them there doesn't seem to be a really obvious way to hook them up. Has anybody installed these? Any ideas on wire routing?
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[smurfpike]

[designer]

Thanks for the heads up on the install to the OP! I followed this pretty much - and I do agree - the heavy duty LT mirrors aren't that HD. But they are cool and i think they'll be just fine. nice view to the rear. Much better than stock.
They look friggin' tight!

I'm not too impressed with the rivet installation - i used the 25/64 bit and i think it was just a tad bit loose for the rivets I bought from GW. They still hold the top of the mirror on well but i just think i either did it wrong, which I don't see how that'd be possible ... but whatever. I know i didn't "waller" the holes out.

Still thanks for the heads up. Oh, the "tool" you buy - don't waste your money.

Thanks!
-cc-

[ajdenette]

I have had several of the smaller stock manual mirrors break of when getting bumped or rusted in place and unmovable and break trying to adjust them. The LT mirrors have a much more robust pivot and fold in nicely for working on the van in the garage or to keep them out of the bushes on the trail plus the visibility is amazing one of my favorite things about my Syncro.
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[DAV!D]

Good post on installing them. I'm still not sold on LT mirrors as they look a bit big too me, but after finally getting some drive time on my Westy I can understand the want for bigger mirrors.

I'm not sure I want that much mirror hanging on the side of my van when doing trails, I'm curious what the off road guys think of them? Also is there maybe something between the stock mirrors and there LT mirrors?
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[mtnphan]

Nice tutorial thanks for posting. This is on my to do list for the summer.
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[tarandusVDub]

Let us know how you hook up the heater wiring. I got mine from CIP1 but the non-heated version.
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[robertgriner]

I know I've seen several people inquire about these and I've been on a search myself.

I discovered them on a site in Germany. They're $295 shipped to me in Kansas City. All included except the attaching screw/bolts.

I'm attaching the photo they sent me. The indicated that I would get everything in the picture, with the mirrors swapped for "heated" versions.

Hope this helps those who are looking.

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[MsTaboo]

[Solrider]

I just got a set of these from GW and I'll be heading out to the hardware store to pick up what I need. This is a very clean installation, but a bit more than I bargained for! I have minimum mechanical skills and while I want this done right and I'm not afraid of the challenge, I wasn't expecting to have to go out any buy extra tools for installation.

Have those that have just used the sheetmetal screws had any issues with them coming off or coming loose? Should I just break down and get all these extra parts and do it this way, the first time?!
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