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 Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2023 4:12 am Post subject: Re: TDI into '78 Bus Build Thread |
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Wish I were closer. A couple of rolls of paper towels , dry wipe at first, then a touch of solvent to get the residue up and that mess will clean up.
Play some good music while you do it, itβs all good.
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vwwestyman
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| Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2023 8:46 pm Post subject: Re: TDI into '78 Bus Build Thread |
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Made a lot of progress this weekend; been plugging away each of the past few nights.
Sorted out a bunch of little things, remoutned the carrier bar, changed the timing belt among other things.
Mounted the engine up in the Bus to check on how a few new arrangements will work out, but I realized I needed to order new flywheel bolts so I'll have to pop it back out to properly install that. No big deal really as I was able to lay eyes on some things I wanted to check on.
And, another package of Oreos showed up! The beer pairing isn't quite as good, but Mint Oreos are still a favorite, so they paired quite well with working on an engine.
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vwwestyman
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| Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2023 9:08 pm Post subject: Re: TDI into '78 Bus Build Thread |
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Been working on the engine the past couple nights.
Tonight, I got the exhaust manifold modified and turbo installed. I've been trying to be thoughtful and methodical in getting this put together, even though my "soft" goal is getting it to run within the next couple weeks just to go to a camping trip, only to pull it again over the winter and do some "clean up" that I've been dreaming about.
My wife told me about some website that purports to break down any big job to smaller steps for you, to help get you started. I decided to try it out to see what I need to be doing... It wasn't helpful.
Had a beer and a couple of the Oreos I was sent the other day as inspiration. The maltiness of the Oktoberfest style paired well with the sweet of the Oreo cookies.
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vwwestyman
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| Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2023 6:16 pm Post subject: Re: TDI into '78 Bus Build Thread |
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This came in the mail today!
Oreos from a thoughtful (and well-remembered) Samba to help console from the disaster.
The other stuff is aluminum coolant flanges- the thermostat housing (cast one) and a flange on from the head to the radiator hose (billet one).
I was always a little nervous about the pressure my stiff coolant hoses put on the stock plastic flanges. Shouldn't have to worry about that now!
I was surprised that I couldn't find a cast one for the head as there are plenty of kits for other VW motors, and other cars in general.
So I had to spend a bunch on this billet flange. But, it will be the most beautiful part on the whole engine!
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Xevin
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| Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2023 9:20 pm Post subject: Re: TDI into '78 Bus Build Thread |
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| vwwestyman wrote: |
| busdaddy wrote: |
  I'm sorry, but I just LOL'd over that, not because it's funny, but because I've been in some very similar situations, I feel for you man.  |
I wasn't originally sure I wanted to post it... But I did text to a couple Samba members and that helped me move past the initial embarrassment I had.
The biggest frustration is it wasted so much of my precious work time, but in the end it is pretty crazy and in that way, kinda funny. |
Then I continued to waste more of your precious work time texting back and forth like 12 year olds.
Dave was all class. My head would have twisted off and Iβd curl up in a corner rocking back and forth. Insider tip. Pulp and paper products might see a bump in futures trading 
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vwwestyman
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| Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2023 7:38 pm Post subject: Re: TDI into '78 Bus Build Thread |
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| busdaddy wrote: |
I'm sorry, but I just LOL'd over that, not because it's funny, but because I've been in some very similar situations, I feel for you man. |
I wasn't originally sure I wanted to post it... But I did text to a couple Samba members and that helped me move past the initial embarrassment I had.
The biggest frustration is it wasted so much of my precious work time, but in the end it is pretty crazy and in that way, kinda funny.
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vwwestyman
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| Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2023 7:26 pm Post subject: Re: TDI into '78 Bus Build Thread |
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| skills@eurocarsplus wrote: |
| vwwestyman wrote: |
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you know what I like about you? you don't fuck around...you lick your wounds and own it....your determination to kick the hell out of it is amazing...most folks would have walked away by now.
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I was just going to say the same thing 
that oil mess.... fuck... that sucks.
So, I went back real quick (i mean...real quick) unless I missed it, what happened? |
A little over two years ago, while in the middle lane of a 3 lanes per direction interstate, somewhere in Georgia between Atlanta and Birmingham Alabama, the vacuum pump clamp came loose, allowing the vacuum pump to lift up which disengaged it from the oil pump. Wife was driving and I was in the back seat with our baby; I don't know for sure if the oil pressure light somehow didn't come on or she didn't notice it (the check engine light was on because I'd unplugged the MAF because it was going bad on the trip)
I think I spent some time feeling a bit defeated until I was offered a good deal on another engine about a year ago. But about a year ago it was looking like we were going to have to buy a new house so we could move in a 13 year old boy which we did do. There's been a lot of stress around all that for quite some time, so I'm just now finally getting to it.
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| Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2023 4:59 pm Post subject: Re: TDI into '78 Bus Build Thread |
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I'm sorry, but I just LOL'd over that, not because it's funny, but because I've been in some very similar situations, I feel for you man.
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skills@eurocarsplus
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| Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2023 4:46 pm Post subject: Re: TDI into '78 Bus Build Thread |
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| vwwestyman wrote: |
| skills@eurocarsplus wrote: |
you know what I like about you? you don't fuck around...you lick your wounds and own it....your determination to kick the hell out of it is amazing...most folks would have walked away by now.
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I was just going to say the same thing
that oil mess.... fuck... that sucks.
So, I went back real quick (i mean...real quick) unless I missed it, what happened?
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vwwestyman
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vwwestyman
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| Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2023 3:53 pm Post subject: Re: TDI into '78 Bus Build Thread |
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| skills@eurocarsplus wrote: |
you know what I like about you? you don't fuck around...you lick your wounds and own it....your determination to kick the hell out of it is amazing...most folks would have walked away by now.
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This quote is at the top of page 23 of this thread, from 2016. I keep that as my bookmark to the thread, so when I'm posting about some disaster I see that little bit of encouragement.
That said, I've finally been working on this thing again. With everything going on in my life, I have had a difficult time finding time to work on it, but I did have some time on Saturday.
I did my best to be very meticulous in taking things apart off the dead engine, so that I could transfer them to the new one.
One of those things is the oil pan. I was sure I'd drained it when I pulled the engine out a year ago. (I guess I hadn't.)
I had recently set up a pulley system for this sort of work, and figured I might as well not be crouching down to remove all 20ish bolts.
I got the last bolt out and it was stuck. No big deal, that happens. I'll just go get a mallet and give it a whack.
Well... As I was across the garage getting the mallet, the pan let go!
Oh well, shit happens I guess.
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vwwestyman
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| Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2023 7:39 am Post subject: Re: TDI into '78 Bus Build Thread |
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What year engine have you been using on this conversion? Do they have a very high mileage? I read somewhere that you have kill three different tdi engines or am l mistaking? What about the transmission? How are those bus transmission working for you? I destroyed two transmission in my first two years. Now I'm running the flipped passat transmission set up and I'm happy with it. Just need to stay out of off road driving style, because I lost ground clearance.
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They have all been 1z or AHU engines. First one died from coolant loss, second from a rebuilt head dropping a valve, third was two years ago September when the vacuum pump clamp bolt came loose. Mileage isn't what killed the engines.
TDI engine did hasten the death of the original-build transmission and did beat up the first rebuild. Second rebuild is still going fine (well, was until the engine blew) and was build with beefier parts so fingers crossed...
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| Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2023 4:35 am Post subject: Re: TDI into '78 Bus Build Thread |
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What year engine have you been using on this conversion? Do they have a very high mileage? I read somewhere that you have kill three different tdi engines or am l mistaking? What about the transmission? How are those bus transmission working for you? I destroyed two transmission in my first two years. Now I'm running the flipped passat transmission set up and I'm happy with it. Just need to stay out of off road driving style, because I lost ground clearance.
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arminyack
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| Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2021 8:19 am Post subject: Re: TDI into '78 Bus Build Thread |
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I have seen that thread and skimmed it. It is pretty interesting and maybe isn't the worst idea but sure seems like the opposite of my thoughts on maybe going to something a little simpler![/quote]
but having that super cheap and readily available 5 speed is super tempting...
And read this this one, and watch his video...
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=668352&highlight=1.8t+backwards |
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Alan Brase
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| Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2021 2:08 am Post subject: Re: TDI into '78 Bus Build Thread |
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WRT the resonance suppressor counter weight:
I just realized Porsche added this exact thing on the 912E. Built a lousy 2088 total. (missed opportunity, in retrospect).
The counter with appears to mount with the same four bolts at the front of the trans.
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