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Jack Frisch Samba Member

Joined: August 12, 2003 Posts: 771 Location: Northhampton, MA
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Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2025 2:42 pm Post subject: Re: 67 Bus Shift Coupler Install Issue... |
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All fixed.
In the near future I will be posting a list of tips to do when doing this job.
In the meantime the rear coupler from Wolfsburg West is great BUT you need to sand off the paint on the inside for an easier fit.
Take a rolled piece of sandpaper and pas it continuoulsy thru the couple while at the same time turning it.
This will remove all of the paint, paint which makes a already snug fitting part hard to install.
Doing this makes a HUGE difference,
Also, coat all inside the couplers and their set screws with anti seize as well as all ends of any rods being attaached. _________________ 1958 Beetle orig. 6 volt 36 hp engine, body & pan, Black w/red/off white inter., Orig. VW wood roof rack and orig. rear luggage rack.
1967 13 Window Walk-thru Deluxe Bus, stock 1500 engine, Titan Red/Grey, Platinum Mesh interior, orig. & stock
1966 GT350H Shelby Orig. low mileage car |
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iamdonquixote Samba Member

Joined: January 28, 2003 Posts: 2087 Location: M*ssholia
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Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2025 5:27 pm Post subject: Re: 67 Bus Shift Coupler Install Issue... |
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I think 66 and 67 front shift rods are different
Don’t think they are easy to find new or used so salvaging what you have is a good idea |
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Eric&Barb Samba Member

Joined: September 19, 2004 Posts: 26227 Location: Olympia Wash Rinse & Repeat
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Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2025 9:35 am Post subject: Re: 67 Bus Shift Coupler Install Issue... |
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The slit can be welded back shut or left as is, it wont affect using the original rod. |
If you do leave the slit, do drill a hole at the end to keep it from spreading as a crack in the material. _________________ In Stereo, Where Available! |
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Jack Frisch Samba Member

Joined: August 12, 2003 Posts: 771 Location: Northhampton, MA
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Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2025 6:37 am Post subject: Re: 67 Bus Shift Coupler Install Issue... |
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UPDATE -31-2025
I got the rods apart.
I had to run a slit down the side about an inch long
Upon doing that, they broke free.
The slit can be welded back shut or left as is, it wont affect using the original rod.
Waiting for my new front couple to arrive and put everything back together.
THANKS for all of you help!!!
I recommend if the rods on your bus don't come apart easily, run a slit with a grinder, it saves alot of grief,
Jack _________________ 1958 Beetle orig. 6 volt 36 hp engine, body & pan, Black w/red/off white inter., Orig. VW wood roof rack and orig. rear luggage rack.
1967 13 Window Walk-thru Deluxe Bus, stock 1500 engine, Titan Red/Grey, Platinum Mesh interior, orig. & stock
1966 GT350H Shelby Orig. low mileage car |
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70bus  Samba Member

Joined: July 15, 2004 Posts: 1682 Location: P.O.
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Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2025 8:31 pm Post subject: Re: 67 Bus Shift Coupler Install Issue... |
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These are earlier versions, but gives an idea. Maybe 1 to 2 inches at most.
_________________ Craig K
70 Neunsitzer
65 Pritschenwagen
"If Von Dutch was alive, he'd walk in there with a pistol and shoot these people." - Robert Williams
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Karl the 70 nine-seater |
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Jack Frisch Samba Member

Joined: August 12, 2003 Posts: 771 Location: Northhampton, MA
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Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2025 8:30 pm Post subject: Re: 67 Bus Shift Coupler Install Issue... |
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Vice grips !! _________________ 1958 Beetle orig. 6 volt 36 hp engine, body & pan, Black w/red/off white inter., Orig. VW wood roof rack and orig. rear luggage rack.
1967 13 Window Walk-thru Deluxe Bus, stock 1500 engine, Titan Red/Grey, Platinum Mesh interior, orig. & stock
1966 GT350H Shelby Orig. low mileage car |
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Jack Frisch Samba Member

Joined: August 12, 2003 Posts: 771 Location: Northhampton, MA
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Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2025 8:29 pm Post subject: Re: 67 Bus Shift Coupler Install Issue... |
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looks like there is not a long length that joins them, which means theres not a lot to pull apart to separate them
I'm inspired not to keep trying to separate them! and not cut anything _________________ 1958 Beetle orig. 6 volt 36 hp engine, body & pan, Black w/red/off white inter., Orig. VW wood roof rack and orig. rear luggage rack.
1967 13 Window Walk-thru Deluxe Bus, stock 1500 engine, Titan Red/Grey, Platinum Mesh interior, orig. & stock
1966 GT350H Shelby Orig. low mileage car |
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Jack Frisch Samba Member

Joined: August 12, 2003 Posts: 771 Location: Northhampton, MA
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Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2025 8:23 pm Post subject: Re: 67 Bus Shift Coupler Install Issue... |
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Thanks Craig!
Agreed,
I'm confident if I cut the front rod, I can then removed the rusted end attached ti the long rod easily with a grinding wheel, slicing and removing sections one at a time
Any idea how far the long rod inserts into the front rod?
How far does it go past the hold for the set screw? _________________ 1958 Beetle orig. 6 volt 36 hp engine, body & pan, Black w/red/off white inter., Orig. VW wood roof rack and orig. rear luggage rack.
1967 13 Window Walk-thru Deluxe Bus, stock 1500 engine, Titan Red/Grey, Platinum Mesh interior, orig. & stock
1966 GT350H Shelby Orig. low mileage car |
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70bus  Samba Member

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Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2025 8:06 pm Post subject: Re: 67 Bus Shift Coupler Install Issue... |
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Front shift rods are common, new and used. Those long middle shift rods, uncut, are very hard to find. Try to save that one if a sacrifice must be made. _________________ Craig K
70 Neunsitzer
65 Pritschenwagen
"If Von Dutch was alive, he'd walk in there with a pistol and shoot these people." - Robert Williams
Raoul the 65 singlecab
Karl the 70 nine-seater |
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Jack Frisch Samba Member

Joined: August 12, 2003 Posts: 771 Location: Northhampton, MA
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Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2025 7:19 pm Post subject: Re: 67 Bus Shift Coupler Install Issue... |
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UPDATE 8-26-2025
Front coupler removed
The two rods are rusted together, I'm working ion separating them.
But, I might end up needing to cut the front rod and cut away its rusted end and replace it with a new front rod.
We'll see. _________________ 1958 Beetle orig. 6 volt 36 hp engine, body & pan, Black w/red/off white inter., Orig. VW wood roof rack and orig. rear luggage rack.
1967 13 Window Walk-thru Deluxe Bus, stock 1500 engine, Titan Red/Grey, Platinum Mesh interior, orig. & stock
1966 GT350H Shelby Orig. low mileage car |
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Jack Frisch Samba Member

Joined: August 12, 2003 Posts: 771 Location: Northhampton, MA
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Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2025 12:57 pm Post subject: Re: 67 Bus Shift Coupler Install Issue... |
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UPDATE 8-25-2025
Yes, I made a mistake in my previous update, I know see I need to remove the font coupller no matter what. _________________ 1958 Beetle orig. 6 volt 36 hp engine, body & pan, Black w/red/off white inter., Orig. VW wood roof rack and orig. rear luggage rack.
1967 13 Window Walk-thru Deluxe Bus, stock 1500 engine, Titan Red/Grey, Platinum Mesh interior, orig. & stock
1966 GT350H Shelby Orig. low mileage car |
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chrisflstf Samba Member

Joined: February 10, 2004 Posts: 4213 Location: San Diego
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Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2025 10:27 am Post subject: Re: 67 Bus Shift Coupler Install Issue... |
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| Since 66 and later use a different bushing for the shifter, you might be able to remove the shifter and get enough forward movement on the shift rod to get the coupler in place |
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70bus  Samba Member

Joined: July 15, 2004 Posts: 1682 Location: P.O.
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Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2025 9:56 am Post subject: Re: 67 Bus Shift Coupler Install Issue... |
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OP may be at the point many of us have reached: saying
"screw it; I'm starting over" and replacing all the components that are giving us guff! In which case, try getting it all out the front way (thanks for the tip!); from there, you can work on it easier if you want to remove the busted screw. Decide whether rusty OG quality parts are still better than repros (they often are), clean up and reinstall. Or at least have them as a guide to check repros... and if intact, stash them as spares or put them in the classifieds. _________________ Craig K
70 Neunsitzer
65 Pritschenwagen
"If Von Dutch was alive, he'd walk in there with a pistol and shoot these people." - Robert Williams
Raoul the 65 singlecab
Karl the 70 nine-seater |
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Stocknazi Samba Member

Joined: June 18, 2004 Posts: 5546
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Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2025 8:25 am Post subject: Re: 67 Bus Shift Coupler Install Issue... |
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| If you end up needing to remove the rear shit rod you can pull the rear shift rod out through the front without dropping the engine/tranny if you remove the bolt/nut/swing arm and push the center pin down to create clearance. Then there will be just enough room to flex the shift rod down and out through the front once it gets out of the guide tube enough to allow it to flex. |
Never knew you could pull the whole rod out the front, under the valance, but I watched someone on Youtube slide the ear rod far enough forward to replace the rear bushing after the parking brake assembly was removed for clearance. I've always checked/greased the bushings when the transmission was out.
I'd advise heating the coupler/grub screw red hot and cooling quickly with (lots) of cold water to break the rust bond. Kroil or 50/50 ATF/acetone in between cycles. It WILL break free and come apart if you are diligent. Find a piece of stainless steel to wedge up in there so you don't burn your heater tube wrap or paint. Wet towel in the toolbox above helps soak up the heat.
I thought that the coupler could be replaced without removing the forward shift rod? You may have to disconnect the shifter base to allow the rods to slide forward for clearance. _________________ WANTED:
58 Westfalia cabinet knobs (3 needed), roof rack, and (7) privy tent poles (silver painted).
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Kommercial Samba Moderator

Joined: December 28, 2000 Posts: 1195 Location: San Tan Valley, Arizona
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Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2025 7:07 am Post subject: Re: 67 Bus Shift Coupler Install Issue... |
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| If you end up needing to remove the longer rear shift rod, you can pull that shift rod out through the front without dropping the engine/tranny if you remove the bolt/nut/swing arm and then push the center pin down to create clearance. Then there will be just enough room to flex the shift rod down and out through the front once it gets out of the guide tube enough to allow it to flex. |
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mdege Samba Member

Joined: January 16, 2018 Posts: 1099 Location: Niederkruechten, Germany
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Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2025 2:26 am Post subject: Re: 67 Bus Shift Coupler Install Issue... |
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I had the same problem.
Here is what I did:
1. I cut apart the ring, just two cuts and the thing cam off. The ring can be purchased.
2. I cut the front shift rod carefully lengths wise,just an inch or two, this will relieve the tension between the two parts due to the rust between them. the I could pull them apart.
3. The I inserted a piece of copper pipe into the front rod and welded the cut back together. And cleaned up the weld.
4. I made a new ring on my lathe. Bus, as mentioned, this part can also be bought. _________________ - Michael
1965 21F: Restoration of a former '65 firetruck
1963 Typ3 Notchback project
1988 Multivan Magnum 112i
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70bus  Samba Member

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Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2025 12:52 am Post subject: Re: 67 Bus Shift Coupler Install Issue... |
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Removing and reinstalling the long middle rod means dropping motor and tranny, which may take longer than drilling the screws. If you go this route, save the old rods to compare the placement of screw holes, as some people got shift rods with holes in wrong place resulting in shifting issues. _________________ Craig K
70 Neunsitzer
65 Pritschenwagen
"If Von Dutch was alive, he'd walk in there with a pistol and shoot these people." - Robert Williams
Raoul the 65 singlecab
Karl the 70 nine-seater |
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Jack Frisch Samba Member

Joined: August 12, 2003 Posts: 771 Location: Northhampton, MA
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Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2025 11:50 pm Post subject: Re: 67 Bus Shift Coupler Install Issue... |
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UPDATE as of 8-24-2025
The front couple screw's head snapped off.
Drilling it out will be a pain, to say the least.
So I will be cutting through on of the rods and removing them both.
and replacing them with brand new shifter rods, bushing etc etc from Wolfsburg West
This will all mew to get back on the road asap and enjoy the rest of the summer and falll.
Thanks for all your help!!!
Jack _________________ 1958 Beetle orig. 6 volt 36 hp engine, body & pan, Black w/red/off white inter., Orig. VW wood roof rack and orig. rear luggage rack.
1967 13 Window Walk-thru Deluxe Bus, stock 1500 engine, Titan Red/Grey, Platinum Mesh interior, orig. & stock
1966 GT350H Shelby Orig. low mileage car |
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Eric&Barb Samba Member

Joined: September 19, 2004 Posts: 26227 Location: Olympia Wash Rinse & Repeat
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Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2025 2:09 pm Post subject: Re: 67 Bus Shift Coupler Install Issue... |
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Beefier and more noise transmitted into the interior of the bus. _________________ In Stereo, Where Available! |
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