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velvetgreen
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vwuguy 
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Looks fancy must be steel.. better than nothing that was there before still needs paint bodywork ect.. lawn art..
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vwuguy
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| Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2021 4:36 pm Post subject: Re: 50s bus for fun |
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today spent the day getting all the leaves and crap out of the front storage tool box and nose..
Then put a couple cross braces in where the non-existant floor was i guess they may qualify as the floor.
added a brace to the lower front and previouosly i cut the lower bulkhead to gain access to where I am gonna do some frame repairs..
bought new crossmember for here
the lack of floor it was so rusted i lifted the mat and it all deterioted rt there into dust.. yay floor dust.. and the shifter it fell off by hand with some grinder convincing..
its a neat piece of lawn art[/img]
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vwuguy
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| Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 8:18 am Post subject: Re: 50s bus for fun |
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yesterday installed early accessory gauge installed. I think its a stewart werner
found it in a spare parts box..
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hazetguy
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| Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 9:54 am Post subject: Re: 50s bus for fun |
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| your "welding" is atrocious and unsafe. |
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vwuguy
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yeah need more practice..if you or one of your friends wanna show me how to weld better that would be appreciated..hazetguy. . any suggestions on how to improve it
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Major Woody
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| Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 11:44 am Post subject: Re: 50s bus for fun |
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I know this is going to sound harsh and I love your enthusiasm so I don't want to extinguish it. My purpose here is simply a reality check based on years of experience.
What you want to do requires far greater skills and experience than what you have, or a kind local mentor to teach you as you go. It requires a semi-heated shop with a clean solid floor, and at least some heat. You will need proper welding equipment, and that means no flux core. Additionally you will need many tens of thousands of dollars. Without those, you will not finish and worse, you probably will do a bunch of damage to the bus that somebody else will have to undo.
Can you put this project somewhere out of the weather until you have the knowledge, funds, facilities and experience to be successful? |
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vwuguy
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| Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 12:27 pm Post subject: Re: 50s bus for fun |
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well thanks..proof it can be done https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_aoJDpkjmM&t=461s
and if thats not movie magic I am about to prove it can be done
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hazetguy
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| Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 2:35 pm Post subject: Re: 50s bus for fun |
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step 1: clean the metal you want to weld. trim back to solid metal. not rusty, painted, tissue paper thin gunk you want to try to weld thicker metal to.
step 1.5: practice welding (welder settings, spped of moving the torch, etc) on similar thickness metals to the thicknesses you want to actually weld - metal that is not part of the bus. this means using the metal thickness and appropriate wire speed chart on the welder to get approximate starting settings and adjust from there. the finished product is not the place to be practicing.
step 2: make sure your ground is on a solid, shiny metal area, close to the area you want to weld.
here are a couple videos i found on the tube of you, with a very simple 'basic mig welding techniques' search. i'm sure you can find plenty more by doing your own searching.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdFZPvDyrZ4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xod-ByrxHg4
you might also find this video helpful.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLMTnXjaptw
also, if available, taking a welding class at a local community college would help a lot. |
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vwuguy
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| Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 3:58 pm Post subject: Re: 50s bus for fun |
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todays progress
definately took my time and tried some of those tips seem to be getting a bit better at this.. thanks really appreciate that
just tacked on some small frame pieces so i can take it off the jack stand holding it up and move it. it took a lot more time.. worth it though
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RambosRide
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| Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 6:47 pm Post subject: Re: 50s bus for fun |
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| yeah need more practice..if you or one of your friends wanna show me how to weld better that would be appreciated..hazetguy. . any suggestions on how to improve it |
I don't know if I missed it...but what are you welding with - I'm assuming a 110v mig welder?
Machine make and model?
Flux or Gas Shielded?
Machine settings : voltage, wire speed and if gas shielded Regulator settings?
Welding wire size and make? |
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vwuguy
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| Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 3:57 pm Post subject: Re: 50s bus for fun |
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todays progress
apparently this is how you use a magnetic clamp is that correct?
had it perfectly flat but it didn't look rt so added some extra weld on there to give it that patina look..
oh yeah that completes replacing the rt frame getting closer to a solid storage shed..
other things i did were major cleaning of the engine bay but that is borring stuff I hope you have a grateful night! cheers see yeah tmo..
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vwuguy
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RambosRide
i'm just welding 1/8" 3mm 1040 steel with flux core don't need anything serious for it
got it on low amp and feeding about 1/16 /sec
do you got a video you made on youtube on that stuff>?
velvetgreen it was steel just painted it hows your ride?
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vwuguy
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| Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2021 4:06 pm Post subject: Re: 50s bus for fun |
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todays progress cut out frame crossmember
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vwuguy
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todays progress just finished cutting the center crossmember out. strarted on this left frame part. got the template made up just trying a piece to see if it will work.
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| Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2021 6:18 pm Post subject: Re: 50s bus for fun |
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todays progress ain't pretty but better than that giant gaping no frame it had before ..
do you got any pics of your front frame repairs? post em up!
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todays progress welded in these inner pieces for the crossmember gonna tackle the front rust at a later date once i can move the bus and put it on jacks..
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This is the most entertaining thing on the entire internet right now
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| Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2021 7:22 pm Post subject: Re: 50s bus for fun |
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and an absolute disaster. This bus should never be driven on public roads.
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