72 Type 3 Square - Bring back to life

[Type3Todd]

So big update... I've got the car running, insured and on the road.

My first test drive was around the block a couple of times. My initial impressions:

When starting from code, there is a somtimes some popping from the carbs.

Steering is ponderous. Eyeballing the front wheels, they look like there is some toe out.

Engine only wanted to run at low rpm when in gear. When trying to accelerate it would bog down.

Clutch is very sensitive. (see above for cutch issues)

Reverse lockout seems to be only a suggestion. Shifting into second from 3rd is very dramatic. lol.

It's difficult to find first.

The car rattles a lot. I know some of it is coming from loose engine tin, so I'll remedy that.

[Type3Todd]

Since then, I've done an alignment to about 1/8 inch toe in. I've noticed that as the weight of the car goes onto the front suspension it forces the wheels to go more toe out. It took me a few hours to get it right. I haven't really driven it yet as I'm missing wiper arms, and don't want to get a ticket for that.

I've also set the timing to 5 deg. advance and the engine is much happier for it. It doesn't want to idle when cold so I'm going to go over the carbs and linkages and set them to factory specs by following the look listen pamphlet.

I've also replaced then missing screws from the engine tin so it's not rattling nearly as much as before.

I probably didn't mention it before, but I did do a valve adjustment before getting it insured.

[Bobnotch]

[Type3Todd]

I have a question abut the oil bath air cleaner:

Bently says to fill it up the the fill line, but doesn't say what the fill line is. I'm not seeing any fill line. Is it that the light brown ring around the inside? TIA.

[EverettB]

Yes, it's that painted-on line you see there

I wonder if it faded because I've always seem them as red, not brown
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[Bobnotch]

[Type3Todd]

Thanks guys for the info.

Another issue that I’ve come across is that one of the wiper bearings is completely shot.

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The part number is 211955227B. I don’t think these are being made anymore.

I’m thinking that there might be a reasonable substitute with a Type 2 part. Has anyone tried a substitute?

[Bobnotch]

You might want to look in the classifieds for a complete 71-73 wiper motor and transmission assembly. That might be easier to locate is why I mentioned it. Stay away from the 70 only unit IF you find one, as that set operates opposite of what yours is supposed to, plus the shaft spread is different. The 71-73 should be easier to find. Some "late" stuff is easier to find. That would allow you to test it first, then take it apart and lube it then put it back together, retest it, then install it.
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[Type3Todd]

Hi Bob,

That is an option for sure, but I think it would be expensive for shipping and duty, broker fees etc. It's good to have that option as a fall back though.

For now I've ordered part #211998161E and I'm hoping that it will be close enough to get it to work. Worst case scenario is I can return it. I really only need the threaded bushing. I'm hoping the bus one will be either longer or close enough to make it work.

Thanks

[Bobnotch]

You might try posting an add on your local Craig's list (or whatever it's called), or look in the classifieds to see if anyone local to you has one for sale. Another option would be to look for a local pick N pull and see if they have one. I keep forgetting what a PIA it is to deal with customs between our two countries.
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71 Notch ...aka Krunchy; build pics here;
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=249390 -been busy working
64 T-34 Ghia...aka Wolfie, under construction... http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=412120

[Type3Todd]

Thanks for the suggestions Bob, it's lways appreciated.

I took a bit of gamble and ordered the bus wiper arm bearing assembly.

You can see that the bearing is very similar and it will fit like the original. The the shaft is a bit longer so I reused the original one. It still seems strong enough. If needs be I'll cut the bus one down to match the t3 one.

I've installed the new bearing and it fits and works fine. I also cleaned and greased the other bearing and the ball joints while I was there.

Just though I'd post this in-case any one else is having the same problem.

[Type3Todd]

Now back to revisit the clutch issues I was having. I got a new correct length bowden tube, the new one is about an inch shorter.

This was much easier to install. However when I went for a test drive it was shuddering like crazy. It took a feather touch to get it moving without the crazy shudder. I reviewed Bently and I didn't have enough sag according to the spec. I added some washers and now the clutch works smooth as silk.

Now that I've got the car running reasonably well, I'm going to focus on getting it more water resistant, as the rainy season is fast approaching. Up here we only have 2 seasons, rain and construction.

[Scotty D]

Nice tip for the wiper bearing.

I'm sure it's a great feeling to have that clutch issue cleared up as well.

[Bobnotch]

[Type3Todd]

Some more progress to report. I've been working on getting the car more weather proof.

That is the typical condition of the rubber seals on this car.

So far I've installed one door and the rear hatch seal. The rear seal was pretty easy to do. The door was a bit tricky. and I probably didn't do the best job.

When I first bought the car I bought a bunch of seals without dong any research and for the doors I got the Brazil seals. It was a choice of the Brazil or German, the German were like $300 a door vs $40 for the Brazil. They had this grey mould release stuff on them that was difficult to wash off. To get it to fit, I cut a slit in the seal in areas where there is a flange on the door that the seal fits in to. This worked well and we will see how long they last. So far it's been better with the new seal than it was before.

I have also removed the fresh air box and cleaned out the vent and drain tubes. I'm going to refurbish the motor

as you can see it needs a new bearing.

[Type3Todd]

So it's been raining the last couple of days, and I've used this opportunity to find where the water leaks are.

There is water dripping in from a couple of areas that I'm not sure where it would be originating from.

This is the right side just forward of the door just under the dash:

I could see water dripping from here. If any one can tell me what the source of this leak be I'd appreciate it.

On the drivers side I have a rust hole and I'm thinking its from a similar leak.

There is also water in the heater channel. I'm pretty sure it's not coming from the back of the car or dripping down from the doors.

[Bobnotch]

[Type3Todd]

Hi Bob,

That's some good info. I do have a replacement seal for the windshield. I'm hesitant to do it though as I'm afraid of what I'm going to find underneath it. Lots or rust holes.

I'm waiting until I get a week of dry weather before I try to replace it. I might pay a mobile glass place to do the actual install. I'm considering getting new glass as the one on the car is in rough shape, and fogging at the corners.

[Bobnotch]

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