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xgolferdude Samba Member
Joined: January 01, 2014 Posts: 5 Location: NW Arkansas
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Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2014 5:29 pm Post subject: Front wheel not centered in wheel well |
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Hey guys, I'm brand new to the aircooled vw world and bought a 68 squareback... It's already been lowered and has a narrowed adjustable front beam that seems to be a type 1 beam.. the problem is the wheel isn't centered, it's closer to the firewall... Is this common when folks do the type 1 beam swaps? If so is there a easy fix for this?? Thanks for helping a FNG yall..
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Brent Samba Member

Joined: April 28, 2010 Posts: 1622 Location: San Tan Valley, AZ
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Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 6:31 am Post subject: |
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You should post some pictures. Anyone would just be guessing...
If the beam is narrowed, of course it will be closer.
The fix -- put a Type 3 beam back in it. _________________ 69 Fastback Build
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xgolferdude Samba Member
Joined: January 01, 2014 Posts: 5 Location: NW Arkansas
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Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 7:04 am Post subject: |
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maybe this is where my ignorance will show itself.. but how does it being narrowered have anything to do with it being back of center in the wheelwell.. i thought it could be a caster issue or something.. I guess my question is for the guys who have type 1 beams on their type 3s is there a way to correct this without just going back to a type 3 beam.. thanks..
ps.. not trying to start with a type 3 beam vs type 1 beam argument.. just trying to get some insight.. |
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Mike Fisher Samba Member

Joined: January 30, 2006 Posts: 18054 Location: Eugene, OR
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Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 7:12 am Post subject: |
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It has probably been in a wreck and the frame head that the beam bolts to is bent. _________________ 69 FI/AT square Daily Driver
66 sunroof,67,70,71,71,71AT,72,72AT,73 Parts
two 57 oval ragtops sold
'68 Karmann Ghia sold
Society is like stew. If you don't keep it stirred up you end up with a lot of scum on the top! - Russ_Wolfe/Edward Abbey |
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xgolferdude Samba Member
Joined: January 01, 2014 Posts: 5 Location: NW Arkansas
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Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 7:14 am Post subject: |
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sorry for the crappy pic.. Maybe this will shed some light on what Im talking about.. Thanks for the help guys! |
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xgolferdude Samba Member
Joined: January 01, 2014 Posts: 5 Location: NW Arkansas
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Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 7:16 am Post subject: |
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| thats the first thing i checked.. I dosent appear to have been in any wrecks.. all the sheetmetal is the og sheetmetal.. I guess I should contact someone who makes the conversion beams and maybe they can learn me some.. |
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xratt Samba Member

Joined: December 02, 2006 Posts: 36
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Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 8:31 am Post subject: |
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I was wondering about problem before I started my type 1 conversion. Being the type 3 beam sat in rubber casing and it sat maybe an inch more toward the front of the car. Would the type 1 beam make the tires sit out of center in the wheel well? According to this pic yes. That I can think of, no easy fit other then spacing behind the beam in the horns. I'm not done with my beam yet to compare spacing. _________________ Larry A. |
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Bobnotch Samba Member

Joined: July 06, 2003 Posts: 23596 Location: Kimball, Mi
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Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 9:33 am Post subject: |
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maybe this is where my ignorance will show itself.. but how does it being narrowered have anything to do with it being back of center in the wheelwell.. i thought it could be a caster issue or something.. I guess my question is for the guys who have type 1 beams on their type 3s is there a way to correct this without just going back to a type 3 beam.. thanks..
ps.. not trying to start with a type 3 beam vs type 1 beam argument.. just trying to get some insight.. |
Not a t-1 beam guy, but yes, it's a caster angle issue that you're running up against. A fix would be to add more rubber to the back side of the beam. Note; this is the same issue regular t-3 guys run into when dropping the beam more than 3 splines up front. After a 2 spline drop, you're basically out of caster (it's built into the beam mounts). Some of the good t-1 beam conversion guys already know this, and build that into their beams.  _________________ Bob 65 Notch S with Sunroof
71 Notch ...aka Krunchy; build pics here;
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=249390 -been busy working
64 T-34 Ghia...aka Wolfie, under construction... http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=412120
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xgolferdude Samba Member
Joined: January 01, 2014 Posts: 5 Location: NW Arkansas
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Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 9:49 am Post subject: |
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| ok.. Well i guess ill try to put some shims in and see what happens.. Im also thinking that it dosent have drop spindles either.. So if it dosent have drop spindles then thatll make a huge difference I think.. Any who... thanks for the input guys |
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fuhq64 Samba Member

Joined: July 14, 2010 Posts: 279 Location: Dayton
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Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 12:55 pm Post subject: |
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Mine actually does the opposite. The lower the front gets the more the trailing arm angle increases which tends to pull the wheels forward. My car is a little lower than yours though, I'll have to look and see how the front wheels are positioned adjusted at a driving height _________________ 69 Squareback
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Mike Fisher Samba Member

Joined: January 30, 2006 Posts: 18054 Location: Eugene, OR
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Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 8:19 am Post subject: |
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squareonair says he built that beam and he can fix it!  _________________ 69 FI/AT square Daily Driver
66 sunroof,67,70,71,71,71AT,72,72AT,73 Parts
two 57 oval ragtops sold
'68 Karmann Ghia sold
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