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57 Rag
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 Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 7:00 pm Post subject: Ragtop question.. |
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Where do I get a new rag from???
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volkswagenut
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new as in aftermarket?
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RareAir
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67 Florida Deluxe
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57 Rag
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| Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 2:54 am Post subject: |
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| Are you looking for just the top material? |
Yeah, just to replace the material. Nothin else. Are those the best 3 distributors for rags??
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volkswagenut
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IMO , I would get a canvas top . had a vinyl top and didn't like it a bit . the canvas i have now is alot better.  got it from WW
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KPottorff
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Got a canvas top from WCM about 8 years ago when I lived in Phoenix. I live in OK now and even after years of exposure to the sun it still is in good condition.
I just vacuum it once in a while to get the dust out before I wash the car. |
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RareAir
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| I have a new top for my '63 but the seam at the front is creeping up and away from the front edge. Any reason? Cheap top or improper install? |
Originally, VW used rivets to secure the cover material to the front header bow. These days, most people use a poor contact cement to glue it down. Probably a comination of incorrect glue and the cover is too tight.
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57 Rag
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| Originally, VW used rivets to secure the cover material to the front header bow. These days, most people use a poor contact cement to glue it down. Probably a comination of incorrect glue and the cover is too tight. |
Whats the proper way to put it on nowadays then?
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57 Rag
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What's that?? Yeah ....okay you got me I'm an ID!
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RareAir
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| Whats the proper way to put it on nowadays then? |
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3M adhesive came as a suggestion when I inquired a few months ago. After you spray it on both surfaces, let it sit for a few minutes before attaching the parts together. Many times during assembly, most people spray the adhesive then attach the material & header bow together instantaneously without allowing the glue to tack up. This doesn't allow the adhesive to bond as well as it should
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my59
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In my gallery I've posted the manual for a 59. I used rivets to secure the replacment one I got from BFY. The manual has info re adjusting the tension so the front dosent lift.
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glutamodo 
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| The adhesive I used when I put my last (canvas) top on was that Automotive Goop stuff. It really held that top on strong. Actually, since the top turned out to fit so poorly at first, I had to un-glue it and re-do it after a while, and that Goop held it on so well that it was very hard to get off. I've had much worse results with general contact cements over the years. |
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67 Florida Deluxe
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| In my gallery I've posted the manual for a 59. I used rivets to secure the replacment one I got from BFY. The manual has info re adjusting the tension so the front dosent lift. |
I looked at your gallery and those pages from the manual look great! I assume they are applicable to '63. As you can see, I have two issues; the first bow doesnt look to be installed properly and the front edge is creeping back. (I may have a third issue - I dont know if this is a quality top  ) I'm going to print the pages from the manual and go see if I can improve this situation.
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scott s
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I got a vinyl top from WCCR and it fit MUCH better than the TMI top I had on before. It's also a very close match for the Ruby Red paint. They offer several colors that are matches for the factory stuff.
WCCR = West Coast Classics and Restorations. |
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Bruce
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| Which material is proper for which years? Pinpoint vinyl vs. Stayfast canvas. |
1950-55 Beetles came with canvas
1956-later Beetles came with Vinyl |
Sometime after 56, when you went into the VW dealer to buy a cover for a 50-55 Beetle, you got a vinyl cover. Vinyl was the upgrade.
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