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Franklinstower Samba Member

Joined: September 21, 2006 Posts: 1993 Location: PNW
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Tristar Eric Samba Member

Joined: July 25, 2004 Posts: 1262 Location: Portland, Or
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D Clymer Samba Member
Joined: December 22, 2005 Posts: 2986 Location: Issaquah, WA
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Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 10:56 am Post subject: |
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It sure looks like a good deal to me. It also has a clever design detail. They set up the tailpipe and muffler outlet flange to use a metal donut just like the J pipe. This allows you to angle the tip for whatever your application demands.
I have a Smallcar stainless Vanaru header, and the quality is very impressive. Whoever they have doing those stainless parts has certainly got it together.
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pete000 Samba Member

Joined: July 29, 2004 Posts: 645 Location: Bradenton Florida
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Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 3:01 pm Post subject: |
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It also fits stock 2.1 as well !
I just ordered one .
FOR SALE CHEAP S & S ceramic coated performance muffler. _________________ 1990 Vanagon
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D Clymer Samba Member
Joined: December 22, 2005 Posts: 2986 Location: Issaquah, WA
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Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 3:55 pm Post subject: |
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pete000 wrote: |
It also fits stock 2.1 as well !
I just ordered one .
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Yeah, the wbx compatibility ends up being a bonus since their Subaru conversion uses the stock wasserboxer J-pipe and muffler. The parts they make for the conversion end up being a high quality solution for wbx owners too. Post a picture when you install yours.
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Franklinstower Samba Member

Joined: September 21, 2006 Posts: 1993 Location: PNW
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Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 8:26 pm Post subject: |
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Eric,
I just received my 911sc Muffler in the mail today. What kind of cat is that? How is the interior noise level of the engine under load?
Do you have more pictures of how you hung the muffler. Fortunately, mine also came with the 911 clamps. Now I just have to figure out how to connect it to the the SC header. Any help on what you did would be great!
Thanks,
Paul _________________ '89 Westy - EJ25/22 Frank 4.44 5mt
'75 Miami Blue Sunroof FI Standard Bug
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Sodo Samba Member

Joined: July 06, 2007 Posts: 10639 Location: Western WA
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Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 5:22 pm Post subject: |
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I have this stainless exhaust, 2 years old, and it's really rusty. I would not be able to tell the difference between this and "steel".
http://www.smallcar.com/index.php?dispatch=products.view&product_id=29829
http://www.smallcar.com/index.php?dispatch=products.view&product_id=29799
Should 304 rust like this? I could post a photo but it might give some folks the willies...  _________________
'90 Westy EJ25, NEW oil rings (!) 2Peloquins, 3knobs, SyncroShop pressure-oiled pinion-bearing & GT mainshaft, filtered, cooled gearbox.
'87 Tintop w 47k 53k, '12 SmallCar EJ25, cooled filtered original gearbox
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syncrodoka Samba Member

Joined: December 27, 2005 Posts: 12307 Location: Santa Cruz, CA
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Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 5:57 pm Post subject: |
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Pictures, pictures, pictures
(you have to chant it like the jerry springer theme song) |
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Sodo Samba Member

Joined: July 06, 2007 Posts: 10639 Location: Western WA
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Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 8:00 pm Post subject: |
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It was gleaming, looked like chrome, just like this:
This photo below is 22 months old. I'm surprised to the extent that it rusted. Wondering if the aluminized coating process would be better than this type of stainless (304).
Notice even the Stainless bolts rusted bigtime.
The question: Is this "normal" for stainless --->exhaust<--- systems?
Tom
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'87 Tintop w 47k 53k, '12 SmallCar EJ25, cooled filtered original gearbox
....KTMs, GasGas, SPOT mtb
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Vango Conversions Samba Member

Joined: October 04, 2010 Posts: 1054 Location: Seattle, WA
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Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 10:00 pm Post subject: |
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The small car exhaust sure does look nice new but I've seen quite a few failures. The outer surfaces do rust, especially in salty conditions but the main thing is that sometimes the muffler baffles come loose, causing a loud and rattling exhaust. Stock steel mufflers last about as long.
The headers are made of the same stuff and they look beautiful at first but I've seen many crack and rust. I'm curious as to how many people have had good or bad experiences with those headers after a year or so of regular use? |
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syncrodoka Samba Member

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Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 10:05 pm Post subject: |
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I had to have several cracks welded up recently. Mine were packed up with mud but they didn't look too bad when they were cleaned up for the welding.
They are the only syncro subaru conversion header available so... |
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purplegodzilla Samba Member

Joined: September 07, 2006 Posts: 253 Location: Duluth, Georgia
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insyncro Banned

Joined: March 07, 2002 Posts: 15086 Location: New York
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Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 7:11 am Post subject: |
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syncrodoka wrote: |
They are the only syncro subaru conversion header available so... |
Not sure which Subaru engine you have but.......
Next week I will have a complete, stainless, made in the USA replacement exhaust system for the SVX EG33 motors that have been transplanted into Vanagons.
It is a three piece header system.
If any of the parts crack....only that part needs to be replaced, not the entire header.
This system will work with RMW and Small Car parts.
The factory skid plate on the Syncro, if fabricated to ft with the Small Car mounts will be able to be retroed to work with this system very easily.
Pictures, installation pictorial and pricing will be available shortly.
The manufacturer is considering a lifetime warranty on these products.
I will keep you posted.
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syncrodoka Samba Member

Joined: December 27, 2005 Posts: 12307 Location: Santa Cruz, CA
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Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 9:38 am Post subject: |
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I am running a EJ series motor but it is good to hear that there is another player in the field anyways- everyone benefits from friendly competition.  |
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insyncro Banned

Joined: March 07, 2002 Posts: 15086 Location: New York
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Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 10:14 am Post subject: |
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Small Car EJ headers seem to hold up better than the SVX headers.
I don't think there are any EJ headers in the works yet, but I will check and keep everyone posted.
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j_dirge Samba Member

Joined: August 08, 2007 Posts: 4641 Location: Twain Harte, CA
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Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 11:43 am Post subject: |
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insyncro wrote: |
Next week I will have a complete, stainless, made in the USA replacement exhaust system for the SVX EG33 motors that have been transplanted into Vanagons.
It is a three piece header system.
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I'll be looking for more on this when the system comes available.
Keep us posted.
thx.
jim _________________ -89 GL Westy, SVX.. finally.
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those are straight line runs with light weight race cars for only 1/4mile at a time..
not pushing a loaded brick up a mountain pass with a family of 4+ inside expecting to have an event free vacation..
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Franklinstower Samba Member

Joined: September 21, 2006 Posts: 1993 Location: PNW
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Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 5:19 pm Post subject: |
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insyncro wrote: |
Small Car EJ headers seem to hold up better than the SVX headers.
I don't think there are any EJ headers in the works yet, but I will check and keep everyone posted.
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what i am looking for is a tuned, equal length header for the EJ 2 port heads. I was thinking about picking up an OBX header and modifying it to fit the vanagon. A tuned header can easily at 5 - 10hp to a stock Subaru engine.
http://www.sparktecmotorsports.com/h10798s.html
Paul _________________ '89 Westy - EJ25/22 Frank 4.44 5mt
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Vango Conversions Samba Member

Joined: October 04, 2010 Posts: 1054 Location: Seattle, WA
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Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 12:10 am Post subject: |
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Vanaru and I are installing a new made in the USA (by Hans) stainless exhaust header and J pipe on our EJ25 installs. They aren't available for sale alone currently but they're included in the conversion. They're fairly new so there aren't too many miles racked up on them yet but the Stainless is heavier gauge and they're jigged up propperly so you don't need to pry them onto the engine like the small car ones so there shouldn't be the same kind of cracking issues. Time will tell how they hold up but so far so good. |
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vanaguy Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 1:27 am Post subject: |
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I've got about 3,000 miles on one of Vanaru's prototypes, and it's been great.
It's thicker, heavier metal, and it went on super easily and is a little quieter than the SmallCar P.O.S. it replaced- the SC one made a sort of whooshing sound on acceleration and Vanaru's does not.
I haven't had a chance to drench it in a salty, slushy winter, but it has certainly not become a sodden, discolored, cracked & rusty mess the way my SC one had after just a few thousand miles. |
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r39o Samba Polizei

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Status on the Hans wonder headers????? _________________ "Use the SEARCH, Luke" But first visit the Vanagon FAQ!
1990 Multivan EJ 22, Rancho trans 0.82 4th, Small Car front AC, CLKs w/ 215/65-16, homemade big brakes 303mm, Konis, Recaros, etc....
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