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vdubin
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 Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:08 am Post subject: So... I dug out my 69 square. |
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This is my "build" thread. I can't really do the resto my car needs at this point, but I want to drive her none the less. So, I am going to clean her up and patch what I can to save her life and make her a good useable car again.
in the begining... there are pics.
at her new home. she is all original 1969 except for the respray of red and the hood. hood poped up on me and tore at the hinges bending the hinges.
not too sure if the interior (seats) are original... someone may chime in.
I love my A/C...
here are the only 2 id plates on the car other than the vin.
I'm not sure what the second plate is...
and after a short thrashing last night she looks like this... I will get a better pic.
I will have better pics as I progress. this is basically going to be a refresh. the small rust I have I am welding up, but the pass floor pan is in poor shape and needs protection and reinforcing so fiberglass it is. Later I plan to do a proper body off restoral with pan replacement, but this will give her a few more years.
I got lucky and the fuel did not gel after 7 years of sitting. the tranny does not feel so lucky though. I will pull it and the driver front fender tonight. |
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FergU
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| Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 7:57 am Post subject: Re: so... I dug out my 69 square. |
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I'm not sure what the second plate is...
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That is the production date code. The car was built on the 4th day of the 6th week.
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Sqrbckguy38
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love the seats, look exactly like the ones in my 70fasty, so im guessing they are an og seat. plans for motor? running same color? im guessing all floor pans go bad in these things, though my 69 hasnt yet, my 70 is trashed, po put a chunk of wood in to hold the battery in! 
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vdubin
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| Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 12:22 pm Post subject: |
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| Im running the motor i built a while ago. Just a cammed up high compression 1600. The color is going to stay red with cal window rubber and black and chrome accents. She is getting early turns and shaving the over riders on the bumper. I already fixed the battery tray, but with bad door and window seals the water got in... No wood for me. I can lay glass and have it just as strong and not noticable. |
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Mike Fisher
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You gonna finish it off with new stainless side trim! 
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vdubin
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| Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 2:59 pm Post subject: |
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No side trim. Im thinking about a satin black stripe along the body line. We will see. Im going to play with a few things. As far as the engine goes... The eventual plan is 2.0 long stroke turbo on megasquirt.  should scoot nicely, but that is for the body off resto or next year depending on how itchy i get. |
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FergU
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vdubin
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| Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 9:48 pm Post subject: |
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a little update...
here's a better pic of last night's progress...
here is the front of the passenger pan.
here is the back of the passenger pan... there is a bit of swiss cheese here.
here is the back of the driver pan. not too bad, needs some reinforcement.
check out what a PO did. the hole sucks, but I like the access it gives me to the clutch...
slow progress but atleast it's progress.
EDIT: i'm making the photos 800*600... they were a little large.
Last edited by vdubin on Wed Jan 11, 2012 8:53 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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gtixpress
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What is the silver thing mounted on the motor that is sitting on the table? it looks like an oil cooler mounted to the fan intake.
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vdubin
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| Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 11:37 am Post subject: |
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| that's an oil cooler that I was going to try before putting the square in storage. I have a stuck oil pressure relief valve and was blowing up oil coolers. It is not staying there. I have another oil cooler and am fitting an external paper filter to the engine with a sump. |
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vdubin
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another update...
I have removed the pass rear fender, bumper, hood, all of the side glass and tore apart the pass door.
pile of parts.
i got lucky... very little rust. some slightly mangled sheet metal on the bottom of the car.
more progress tomorrow... |
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FergU
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| Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 6:35 pm Post subject: |
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Just a quick tip, I noticed in that last picture that the rubber washers from the fender bolts are still on the car. You might want to grab those, if they fall, they can be a pain to find.
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vdubin
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| Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 7:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Oh i have been... Freaking buck each. I need to replace a few as they have dried out. |
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| Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 8:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Oh i have been... Freaking buck each. I need to replace a few as they have dried out. |
It's better to do it right once. Imagine a year from now you get a leak you are not able to trace, damp carpet, mildew, stench, and then you go, DOH! should have changed all rubber washers!
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vdubin
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| Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 7:35 pm Post subject: |
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ok... a small question.
behind this panel is the air intake for the motor. there is sheet metal behind here that has seam sealer that has rotted. what would you guys recommend to seal the inside of this panel? I was considering drilling out the myriad of spot welds holding the panel in and rewelding it back after sealing it up. I could also just cut it open and butt weld it back together.
I need to remove the little rust that is in there and seal it up so as to prevent a major cancer spot. |
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| Oh i have been... Freaking buck each. I need to replace a few as they have dried out. |
These are pretty close. A little thicker, but a lot cheaper than buying them each from a bin at the hardware store. I just bought a bunch of them to replace mine.
Abrasion Resistant Rubber Washers, 1/4" ID, 3/4" OD, PN: 90131A102
http://www.mcmaster.com/#catalog/118/3241/=fwr61o
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| Excellent find on those washers. ISP charges $0.95 a pop. |
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This company has a lot of miscellaneous hard ware items in their catalog,good source. Found the fuel pump mounting studs/spacers there.
http://www.mcmaster.com/#catalog/118/3241/=fwr61o
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ok... a small question.
behind this panel is the air intake for the motor. there is sheet metal behind here that has seam sealer that has rotted. what would you guys recommend to seal the inside of this panel? I was considering drilling out the myriad of spot welds holding the panel in and rewelding it back after sealing it up. I could also just cut it open and butt weld it back together.
I need to remove the little rust that is in there and seal it up so as to prevent a major cancer spot. |
Knock the balance of the old seam sealer off, wire brush it, and then brush on some Master Series silver paint. Put 2 coats on it like they recommend, and once it's dry, re-seam seal it with some 3M seam sealer. Then prime and paint as needed. By now most of that sealer has dried up and is falling out. Do the same thing for in front of the rear tire well too.
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