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EZ Gruv
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 28, 2022 4:27 pm    Post subject: 2022 - Year In Review Stats Reply with quote

You know we had to do it again! Wink

Post your basic stats!

1977 Deluxe Westfalia - 2056cc FI Type IV - Comes out for camp outs/events/shows and social calls.

Miles driven: 1349.9 (down 3091 from last year, as most of my travel was local)
Gallons of fuel consumed: 89.173
Overall MPG: 15.13799
Number of Oil Changes: 1
Number of Valve Adjustments: 0
Other maintenance of note:
Switched my Petronix out for points & condensor combo after having some issues. Also replaced the Double Relay, and the Distributor this year.


Just for fun stats:
VW Shows/Meets attended: 17
Non-VW Shows attended: 11
Total Shows attended: 28
Trophies won: 5 -
Best Vintage at the Team Automotive Group Show in Las Vegas
Top Pick at the Best Dam Car Show in Boulder City, NV
Cleanest Campsite at Blackstar Campout, Rancho Jurupa California
1st Place Type 2 '68 & Up at El Prado Show & Shine, Rancho Jurupa California
Top Pick at VWs & Corvairs Invade the Dam in Boulder City, NV

Campouts: 2 (6 nights total) - Blackstar, ATR ACC Campout

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 28, 2022 8:08 pm    Post subject: Re: 2022 - Year In Review Stats Reply with quote

Drove about 9,000 miles, hauled immense amounts of car parts, construction trash, and garden debris. 6 oil changes, one fuel pump replacement, burned 25 gallons of nasty old gas mixed in with fresh gas, 3 fuel filters, answered endless questions and endured many a story as I'm trying to get to work on time.

Zero VW events ( not many to choose from near me, would have liked to do 4CORE)

Zero car shows ( yay!!!! no snobby comments from someone who spent $60K to win a $10 trophy)

2 flats fixed with plugs

Turn signals started mysteriously working with great regularity

Looking forward to more dirty,sweaty, profitable miles next year combing junkyards and hauling supplies for a new carport. Getting close to 40 years of ownership!
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2022 10:24 am    Post subject: Re: 2022 - Year In Review Stats Reply with quote

Wasn’t a huge year for me, but was a great time with new things:

New shows attended: 2
New states I took the Bus to: 1
Miles driven to new events: 200 or so.
Nights spent sleeping in the Bus: 4

Miles I floated down a Vermont river in an inner tube with other crazy VW owners: about 2. Very Happy

Happy New Year all. Here’s to 2023.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2022 12:48 pm    Post subject: Re: 2022 - Year In Review Stats Reply with quote

A 83 1/2 Vanagon mostly road worthy, needs CV work before any long trip

A 91 Multivan with a 2.2 Subaru with a leaky rear main seal, still being driven

A 77 Bay with 1800 engine from a 1974 412. Parked for winter

A 73 Thing, running well, but with lots of crankshaft endplay, parked for winter
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2022 1:46 am    Post subject: Re: 2022 - Year In Review Stats Reply with quote

6250 miles.

17.5MPG

Oil changes : 2


New fuel tank fitted. Garage left foam seal ends loose by fan .. managed to achieve a fairly balanced fan which provided almost no air flow.. CHT hit about 190C in position which never normally goes above 110C by the time I was able to stop and pull a foot of foam out of the fan.



New pistons and cylinders.. melted piston on a hill at about 60mph because timing light was 10 degrees off. (Analog with knob type) . The bus was noticeably more powerful, but only once maybe heard any pre-ignition rattle thinking back on that day..

Also replaced one cylinder head as spark plug thread was cracked ( not same cylinder as melted piston)

Fitted heated windscreen and welded screen surround, 75A alternator, then new pulleys because it drove 100 miles with a flipped fan belt riding on the rim of the bottom pulley., which then started hopping off about 1 mile from start of a trip.. No spares Available within 50 miles.. found an old spare in the bus trapped by some wiring..

Went from points back to electronic ignition after junk condensers started going bad in 500 miles.. Module known to overheat at 70F plus but its winter now.

Now half way through making up EDIS-4 wasted spark ignition with custom timing controller.

VW shows : 0

Camping trips : about 4

Time spent working from home using bus as office.. about 200 days.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2022 11:16 am    Post subject: Re: 2022 - Year In Review Stats Reply with quote

Didn't do very many miles again this year as I was figuring out the tuning of my fuel injection, but I did strip all the primer off and got back most of the original paint.

Miles: 165
Days: 10
Shows: 0

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2022 5:39 pm    Post subject: Re: 2022 - Year In Review Stats Reply with quote

1978 Champagne Edition 2: ex-daily driver, now semi-retired.

Miles driven: 6,695

Gallons o' gas: 411.2 in 47 trips to a station

Overall MPG: 16.3

Times ran out of gas: 2 - damn, got to fix that sender, or learn how to count

Number of Valve Adjustments: 0 (they're hydraulic, baby!)

Oil n Filter Changes:1 along with adding 1.16 quarts in between changes

Other Maintenance n Upgrades: cleaned n greased solenoid & cleaned starter contacts; new cat and gasket; replaced burned-through battery-to-starter wire; rotated tires; replaced driver's-side reverse lamp; fixed horn-ground connector; installed new Butty's accelerator linkage; replaced oil breather-box cork gasket; replaced valve-cover gaskets; replaced fuel-pressure regulator; new tsii; new oil-breather tower; new fuel-pressure regulator; passed smog test; tightened loose top driver's-side shock bolt; new bosch blue coil; new koni porsche steering dampener; set timing at 3,000+ RPM at 28 degrees advanced (with hose offed n plugged); new plugs and rotor; and oiled distributor wick.

VW Meets: 1: "Meet in the Middle" 3/27/22 at Nojoqui Falls

Trips: Coloma 2/22 (oral hygiene, beer, and prime rib); Hot Creek 4/22 (flyfishing, beer, and camping); Reseda 4/22 (Mr H's 98th birthday, beer, and bbq); Coloma via Petaluma 6/22 (beer, oral hyiene, and on the way to Montana); Reseda 7/22 (Mr n Mrs H had COVID); Hot Creek and Arcularius Cow Camp 8/22 ((flyfishing, beer, camping, n more flyfishing and beer at the cabin); and Coloma-to-Malakoff Diggins SHP-to-Bodega Bay 10/22 (oral hygiene, beer, sight-seeing and camping).

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 31, 2022 12:22 am    Post subject: Re: 2022 - Year In Review Stats Reply with quote

18,370 miles.

One new camshaft/cam bearings.
One used rocker shaft clip (thanks 71whitewesty!)
Painted the damper pipe

Stuck in the snow on the front lawn… Second favorite is Eric’s photo of me on my bike at BBB!
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 31, 2022 4:27 am    Post subject: Re: 2022 - Year In Review Stats Reply with quote

It's New Years Eve here in Japan (visiting family for Oshogatsu) and was thinking about my stats.

* Put about 6000 miles on the bus
* Averaged about 20mpg
* Covered a lot of BC, touched Western Alberta, Southern Yukon, Eastern Alaska, & Northern Washington State.
* Attended 1 VW show
* Camped year round (23 times) in various campgrounds and another 7 times off grid along FSRs in BC and WA.
* Drove in temps from -4F to 100F
* Did a few upgrades and minor repairs - see build thread

2022 has been a good year and am looking forward to 2023!

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 31, 2022 12:33 pm    Post subject: Re: 2022 - Year In Review Stats Reply with quote

1971 Westfalia campmobile.
Started the year off at BBB. Did some campouts, did some shows. Drove some miles, had a ton of fun! Very Happy

Somewhere in there was a valve adjust oil change. a carb restoration and other service performed. Cool

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 31, 2022 1:23 pm    Post subject: Re: 2022 - Year In Review Stats Reply with quote

1977 Westfalia Campmobile with a Subaru EJ20

Mileage covered: 2,076 (122259 - 120183).
Nights away: 32.
Techenders
Scotland
Cotswolds
Bagfest Music Festival
Nah Then Music Festival
Cotswolds again

Fuel consumption: ~ 34 mpg which seems consistent with 2021.

Oil consumption: none which I have noticed.

Jobs for winter:
new brake backplates front & rear.
new brake hoses front and rear.
fit slightly thicker foam in the rear seat base / back.
Maybe fit a small heater
Planned (hope to) travels for 2023:
Techenders
2 weeks exploring Scotland
Camping in the Cotswolds
Bagfest
Nah Then Festival
Yorkshire (maybe)

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 31, 2022 3:51 pm    Post subject: Re: 2022 - Year In Review Stats Reply with quote

1972 Westfalia Campmobile tin top - mystery vanagon engine (likely 2L) with dual Weber 44 idfs and stock 3 rib transmission

Miles driven: 3,031
Mileage: 12mpg, mostly highways, hills and off-roading, not ideal tune either

Nights camped: 5, maybe a few more

On the road for the first time in probably decades time this July after I finished up the restoration. Then it went away mid November so I’d say I got a good amount of miles, I will probably do over 10,000 miles in 2023.

I am just finishing up a fuel injection conversion and will hopefully run better and get better mileage
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 31, 2022 5:29 pm    Post subject: Re: 2022 - Year In Review Stats Reply with quote

1973 camper (originally safare) 1.7L Weber progressive (have yet to install restored dual solexes)

Km driven: around 2000 (1242 miles)

Dirt road: 850km

Ferry to island: 1

Mileage: 15L/100km (15.6MPG)

Nights out: 12 (whole family of 5 + 1 dog)

Lowest temp.: -5 Celsius (23*F)

Winter project: Investigate oil leak in or around the fan shroud


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 01, 2023 2:07 am    Post subject: Re: 2022 - Year In Review Stats Reply with quote

1971 Dormobile 1776cc
Miles driven: ~2,350
Gallons of fuel consumed: ~150
Fuel economy: ~16 mpg
Times I helped move items for friends since I have the largest cargo space: 2
New family members: 1 (1970 beetle)

Notable trips: 3
Buses By the Bridge ~700 miles
Ogden to see The Shins in concert ~630 miles
Bryce Canyon ~180 miles

Maintenance:
1 clutch replaced (TO bearing, both discs)
Switched to dual carbs
Replaced:
- Master cylinder
- Brake booster
- Both front calipers and pads
- 1 steel brake line
- Brake pedal spacer and spring
- Front soft brake lines
Adjusted rear brakes
Installed 3rd brake light (LED)
Changed to Europe style tail lights
Ironed out wiring bugs that followed the brake stuff
Attempted silicone sealant for roof windows, still leak a bit
1 valve adjust
1 oil change

Favorite photo: My bus next to some big boy buses (Bryce Canyon Shuttles)
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2023 4:34 pm    Post subject: Re: 2022 - Year In Review Stats Reply with quote

Bear has been off-line for the last year and a half. This thread makes me think its time to wake him back up.

1978 Champagne - 2.0L FI Type IV

Miles driven: 0
Gallons of fuel consumed: 0
Overall MPG: n/a
Number of Oil Changes: 0
Number of Valve Adjustments: 0
Other maintenance of note:

Just for fun stats:

VW Shows attended: 0
Non-VW Shows attended: 0
Trophies won: 0
VW Events attended: 0
Campouts: 0
New Stickers: 1

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2023 4:40 pm    Post subject: Re: 2022 - Year In Review Stats Reply with quote

Kirk wrote:
Bear has been off-line for the last year and a half. This thread makes be think its time to wake him back up.

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wow, if that's true, then that's the best thing this thread could've produced.

get bear going!
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2023 4:54 pm    Post subject: Re: 2022 - Year In Review Stats Reply with quote

Kirk wrote:
Bear has been off-line for the last year and a half. This thread makes be think its time to wake him back up.

1978 Champagne - 2.0L FI Type IV

Miles driven: 0
Gallons of fuel consumed: 0
Overall MPG: n/a
Number of Oil Changes: 0
Number of Valve Adjustments: 0
Other maintenance of note:

Just for fun stats:

VW Shows attended: 0
Non-VW Shows attended: 0
Trophies won: 0
VW Events attended: 0
Campouts: 0
New Stickers: 1

Random photo of my bus:

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Good looking Bus! The bush/light bar looks great.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2023 5:13 pm    Post subject: Re: 2022 - Year In Review Stats Reply with quote

Kirk wrote:
Bear has been off-line for the last year and a half. This thread makes be think its time to wake him back up.


Do it!!
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2023 6:53 pm    Post subject: Re: 2022 - Year In Review Stats Reply with quote

1979 Westfalia Campmobile - 2.0L FI

Miles driven: 0
Gallons of fuel consumed: 0
Overall MPG: n/a
Number of Oil Changes: 0
Number of Valve Adjustments: 0
Other maintenance of note: got to use the spare tire

Just for fun stats: “first bus”

VW Shows attended: 0
Non-VW Shows attended: 0
Trophies won: 0
VW Events attended: 0
Campouts: 0
Total miles towed : 414

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2023 9:11 pm    Post subject: Re: 2022 - Year In Review Stats Reply with quote

Peryl, 1971 Westy 2275cc

Total miles: 3586
Oil changes: 3
Adjusted valves: 3, more like just checking them
Repairs: added flanges to my heat exchangers, new FAG rear wheel bearings, OEM CV boots, new slider door seal, added a trailer wiring harness, new speedo cable
New Additions: 1973 Sears Allstate trailer

VW events: 3
Festivals: 3
Fun times had: ♾️
Not too many miles this year. I built a ‘65 Beetle that has taken over my daily.

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The Monster, 1965 Deluxe 2109cc

Total miles: 5500

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