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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2024 10:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Ghia coming home Reply with quote

Thank you Ian!

After many rounds of grinding off the CuSi and re-welding I finally got the filler leak proof. The thing with Cusi is, that it wants much more power than what my welding machine is recommending. That is something I had to figure out the hard way. At least it's easier to grind off CuSi than steel Cool

If there is not enough welding power the CuSi just drips on the metal creating build up and holes in the weld material. More power and it started to melt and flow evenly onto the metal. Exactly how I wanted it to seal the tank joints. They are next.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2024 2:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Ghia coming home Reply with quote

you're welcome. You have done it very neatly reshaping the top of the tank like that. excellent work
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2024 9:15 am    Post subject: Re: Ghia coming home Reply with quote

Thank you Antoine!

Today I finished the top before closing the tank next. Sorry Ian, I stole another idea from you. Jep! Phantom in-tank pump and return from Aeromotive. I just couldn't find space for the swirlpot.

I wanted to mount it to a flat so I took out the ribs from the tank top partially. After some trails on the old tank I decided to make some cuts and heat to minimize warping. It worked! CUSI welding is very different. The filler needs a lot of cleaning...

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 06, 2024 11:42 am    Post subject: Re: Ghia coming home Reply with quote

Creativity and perfect execution 😎

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 06, 2024 5:40 am    Post subject: Re: Ghia coming home Reply with quote

Did you ever notice that VW has been using tapers to fit together the fuel filler neck?
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I cut the top piece off and turned the access material away, creating back the original 5 deg. taper. Than shortened the neck by the amount the tank gets taller.
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I made a little stretching tool with the same taper and pounded it into the remaining tube on the tank.
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It worked actually without heat, very easy. It's all about the right tools, right? Laughing
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The two pieces fit perfectly into each other. Looks like VW did it Cool
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 05, 2024 1:07 pm    Post subject: Re: Ghia coming home Reply with quote

Thanks Ian. Yes warping is not an issue, even after I completed the welding all arround. I spot welded everything until the seam was completely closed. I do not trust that this will be leak proof. So I will add a continuous bead CUSI along the outside. Outlet bung is also welded in.

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Now I am concentrating on the top half.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2024 1:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Ghia coming home Reply with quote

That looks really good, no warping either Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2024 11:56 am    Post subject: Re: Ghia coming home Reply with quote

Thank you Antoine Cool

More paper templates:
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Side wall formed. This needed a little heat to form.
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Closing the rest on this side:
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The other side:
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Bottom half almost done:
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2024 1:42 am    Post subject: Re: Ghia coming home Reply with quote

This is really turning out great, well done ! Preparation and paper plan is the key there!

Bests

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 31, 2024 5:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Ghia coming home Reply with quote

halbug wrote:
Emil, all right - I will find more custom brackets to be made Laughing thanks man!

How about your project, are you still working on it?

Cheers halbug
yes I am. I have been prepping the body for epoxy. I have spent A REALLY LONG TIME researching, learning, and undoing mistakes. If all goes well my wife will epoxy the doors, hood, and engine cover next weekend. With luck, the entire car will be epoxied the following weekend. She has to do the paintwork because my eyesight has degraded too much for me to do it. Look for a lengthy and detailed post in my thread in the near future.

If you haven't already, check out "Project Binky" on YouTube. Those two guys are the British version of you and Antoine (TRS63).

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 30, 2024 12:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Ghia coming home Reply with quote

Emil, all right - I will find more custom brackets to be made Laughing thanks man!

How about your project, are you still working on it?

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 29, 2024 3:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Ghia coming home Reply with quote

This is turning into "Project Binky", the German Edition.
We need more custom brackets.

Loving it,
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 29, 2024 8:19 am    Post subject: Re: Ghia coming home Reply with quote

Final template (#5...) Very Happy
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Paper into sheet metal
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Into 3D shape
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Into the tank
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Overhanging metal needs to be formed into a side wall.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2024 2:14 am    Post subject: Re: Ghia coming home Reply with quote

Back at it!

Making some templates to close the tank over the steering gear, trying to make as few welds as possible:

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Thanks for checking in.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2024 5:54 am    Post subject: Re: Ghia coming home Reply with quote

Hi Ian, thank you. Yes multible pieces or strips is an option. I will try to figure something out on the weekend Razz . Cheers.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2024 2:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Ghia coming home Reply with quote

quite trick metal forming...
I'd cut a strip of steel 50mm wide and roughly 250 long, curve it in the middle and shape the edge to fit the bottom of the tank. Then cut another strip 50mm in the middle but tapered down at the ends, curve in the middle and tack to the the first strip. continue adding more strips. Google pie cuts or lobster cuts. obviously yours will be a semicircle not a full tube. It would be slow but should work.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2024 8:31 am    Post subject: Re: Ghia coming home Reply with quote

Happy New Year Antoine!

I really appreciate your offer to help, thank you. The problem is creating an arch that is bent in two directions (blue plus red line) and I have no idea how to generate this with the existing tools and limited experience I have Embarassed


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2024 12:37 am    Post subject: Re: Ghia coming home Reply with quote

Happy new year to you!

Like Ian, I would assume, that heat shrinking can help for the warping. Fingers crossed !

For the steering gear : an arch would sure be the nicest version, I am sure, you have an idea what you would like to do. You can maybe try a carton version and see how it looks/post it here so that we can help if needed ?

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2024 12:05 am    Post subject: Re: Ghia coming home Reply with quote

Hi Ian, thank you. The steering gear does not go through the tank. The hole is a starting point. I like to create an arch of some kind to close the tank and clear the steering...
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2024 2:29 pm    Post subject: Re: Ghia coming home Reply with quote

excellent work here Lars Smile
re the warping, have a look at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBcfhaNwg4Q on heat shrinking, essentially you heat up circle red hot until a bump forms then shrink it with a hammer and dolly or against your steel table. The trick is working out the right spot to heat. You may need to do it in a few places.
I'm a bit puzzled by the steering, does it come up through the tank? if so do you need to make an arch and weld it into the tank so the tank can be removed without disconnecting the steering?
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