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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2014 7:34 pm    Post subject: curb weight Reply with quote

Could anyone give me the curb weight of a 1989 Vanagon Westfalia? Std transmission. Thanks
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2014 8:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2014 8:23 pm    Post subject: Re: curb weight Reply with quote

tlbranth wrote:
Could anyone give me the curb weight of a 1989 Vanagon Westfalia? Std transmission. Thanks


It weighs about 4200 lbs.

Incidentally, VW never actually published an accurate curb weight for the later Vanagons. They always published 3296 lbs for a passenger van, 3600 lbs for a Syncro passenger van and 4000 lbs for a Syncro Westfalia, but none of those were right. In reality a late model basic passenger van weighs 3600 lbs and the others are all a good deal heavier.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2014 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Coincidentally the last couple days I've wondered where is the that where everyone posts their vans weights at all corners? I just did measure mine and looking for place to post it, couldn't find a thread.
Here it is anyways. Automatic westy 2wd On a trip with two people and 70lb dog and half full water tank. Heavy tires and wheels like 70lb each. No especially heavy gear or big bumpers. just clothes and tent and food.

Total 4800 lb.

Total front 2400:
Right front 1150
Left front 1250.

Total rear 2500:
Right rear 1150
Left rear 1350
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2014 9:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks guys
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2014 11:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tlbranth wrote:
Thanks guys


what was the purpose of your question?
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2014 11:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those numbers don't add up.

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rym wrote:
I just did measure mine and looking for place to post it, couldn't find a thread.
Here it is anyways. Automatic westy 2wd On a trip with two people and 70lb dog and half full water tank. Heavy tires and wheels like 70lb each. No especially heavy gear or big bumpers. just clothes and tent and food.

Total 4900 lb.

Total front 2300:
Right front 1150
Left front 1250.

Total rear 2600:
Right rear 1150
Left rear 1350
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2014 11:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

< 5% error, adequate experimental data for it's purpose.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2014 9:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jon_slider wrote:
tlbranth wrote:
Thanks guys


what was the purpose of your question?

I'm looking for a camp-type vehicle to pull 2 motorcycles. A Subaru powered Vanagon is my first choice but I'm also considering a Toyota Tacoma with a pop-up camper. So I'm gathering information to make the choice.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2014 9:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tlbranth wrote:
Jon_slider wrote:
tlbranth wrote:
Thanks guys


what was the purpose of your question?

I'm looking for a camp-type vehicle to pull 2 motorcycles. A Subaru powered Vanagon is my first choice but I'm also considering a Toyota Tacoma with a pop-up camper. So I'm gathering information to make the choice.


IMO, You'll spend $$$ getting a Vanagon in shape to pull a trailer like that. Along with the Subaru engine plan on a beefier trans and suspension as well. It can be done but not with a stock suspension/tranny (at least not well). Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2014 9:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well for years I had a '72 bus that I put a Dodge Colt engine in. I converted it to a camper but pulled enormous loads with it sometimes. The transmission never gave me trouble. I assumed the Vanagon would be just as tough, No?
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2014 9:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tlbranth wrote:
Well for years I had a '72 bus that I put a Dodge Colt engine in. I converted it to a camper but pulled enormous loads with it sometimes. The transmission never gave me trouble. I assumed the Vanagon would be just as tough, No?


There are several threads about the longevity of a stock trans and towing, or high speed freeway driving. It seems that the tranny can get hot enough to allow excessive clearances between internal parts and then excess wear occurs. Thus a tranny cooler, and a good rebuild as well, would be recommended.

Here is some reading.

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=585154&highlight=tranny+temp
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2014 9:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tlbranth wrote:
Well for years I had a '72 bus that I put a Dodge Colt engine in. I converted it to a camper but pulled enormous loads with it sometimes. The transmission never gave me trouble. I assumed the Vanagon would be just as tough, No?


The Vanagon transmission is stronger than the 002 transmission that your 72 bus had. I think you'll be fine pulling two motorcycles on a light-duty trailer.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2014 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

crazyvwvanman wrote:
Those numbers don't add up.

Mark


Corrected!
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