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crankbait09 Samba Member
Joined: October 10, 2016 Posts: 1401 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio
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Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 11:20 am Post subject: why the handle difference? |
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63 beetle
The PO has a lockable handle on the drivers side, and an non-lockable handle on the passenger side of the car.
Although I see this as an option that you can buy from WW, what is the advantage of having only one lock? Defeats the purpose of the one door being locked....yes? |
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slave1pilot Samba Member

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Bob Loblaw Samba Member

Joined: August 17, 2008 Posts: 865 Location: Vancouver Island, Canada
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Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 11:31 am Post subject: Re: why the handle difference? |
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crankbait09 wrote: |
63 beetle
The PO has a lockable handle on the drivers side, and an non-lockable handle on the passenger side of the car.
Although I see this as an option that you can buy from WW, what is the advantage of having only one lock? Defeats the purpose of the one door being locked....yes? |
The passenger side still locks. It just doesn't have a key hole to unlock it. You have to use the inside handle to lock/unlock.
My guess would be costs as well. _________________ sent from a phone using poor grammar and spelling |
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Sharp64 Samba Member

Joined: August 27, 2015 Posts: 5304 Location: Central Florida
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Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 11:32 am Post subject: Re: why the handle difference? |
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From the inside push the passenger door handle forward. Should lock the door. _________________ 1960 Indigo Blue Ragtop (Blue Barry)
1967 Ghia
1985 Westy Money Pit
“...some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.” - Michael Caine |
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my59 Samba Member

Joined: August 13, 2003 Posts: 3960 Location: connecting the dots
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Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 2:46 pm Post subject: Re: why the handle difference? |
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Money saving, yes.
Also makes vehicle security the driver's responsibility, as it's the only door you can lock from the outside, thus making locking keys in car difficult. _________________ my59: Well son, my grandfather died before I got to drive it, so does that answer your question?
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Other:'12 Jetta, '77 Benz 300D, and a 74 MG Midget. |
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crankbait09 Samba Member
Joined: October 10, 2016 Posts: 1401 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio
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Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 3:47 pm Post subject: Re: why the handle difference? |
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Sharp64 wrote: |
From the inside push the passenger door handle forward. Should lock the door. |
hmph. who would have thought. That definitely worked.
thanks |
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60ragtop Bonneville Belt Bitch

Joined: March 13, 2006 Posts: 7801 Location: Big Wonderful WYO 82401
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Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 3:53 pm Post subject: Re: why the handle difference? |
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crankbait09 wrote: |
hmph. who would have thought. |
The engineers, it is in the owners manual  _________________ Rick
Certified Mechanic by the State of Michigan in 1977
ASA certified in 1987
Certified Hunter Wheel Alignment Master Technician 1986
tasb wrote: |
I've restored a large number too, but I don't toot my horn quite as loud.
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maybe he just snapped cause his car sucked  |
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Sharp64 Samba Member

Joined: August 27, 2015 Posts: 5304 Location: Central Florida
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Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 4:01 pm Post subject: Re: why the handle difference? |
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crankbait09 wrote: |
Sharp64 wrote: |
From the inside push the passenger door handle forward. Should lock the door. |
hmph. who would have thought. That definitely worked.
thanks |
Passenger, can also get out, push it forward and close the door, locking it. I have to be honest in that I kinda forgot this until just recently.
If the door handles are in good condition, keep them. WW aftermarket are supposedly decent, but not much is as good as OG when it comes to handles. _________________ 1960 Indigo Blue Ragtop (Blue Barry)
1967 Ghia
1985 Westy Money Pit
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KTPhil  Samba Member

Joined: April 06, 2006 Posts: 35768 Location: Conejo Valley, CA
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Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 4:50 pm Post subject: Re: why the handle difference? |
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Made it hard to be a gentleman and open the door for the lady.
Back in the day, we'd buy a used driver handle and have it rekeyed to match. |
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hitest Samba Member

Joined: September 30, 2008 Posts: 10323 Location: Prime Meridian, ID
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Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 8:50 pm Post subject: Re: why the handle difference? |
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Going along with that very intentional design- VW for many years (apart from any other manufacturer I can think of) made it virtually impossible for the driver to lock their keys in their own car accidentally under normal conditions. _________________
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I wonder what the nut looks like.
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bluebus86 Banned
Joined: September 02, 2010 Posts: 11075
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Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 8:56 am Post subject: Re: why the handle difference? |
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ive been driving my 61 Bug for near four decades. My Dad bought it new. Dad added a key lock on passenger side to make it easy to retrieve the baby i.e. me!, from the sidewalk side of the locked car.
I have always unlocked the driver door with a key, but once door is open, twist the key back to lock, so when it is reclosed it will be locked automatically with no further action needed other than closing it. I was more concerned about theft, car being left unlocked, than concerned about leaving my key inside.
Keep a Buggin, No Matter How You Lock It! _________________ Help Prevent VW Engine Fires, see this link.....Engine safety wire information
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h~moto Samba Member
Joined: November 19, 2008 Posts: 331 Location: Northern Virginia
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Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 9:14 pm Post subject: Re: why the handle difference? |
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I've never owned a `63 Beetle. Do they normally come with a key slot in the passenger side outside door handle? I know that for the 1966 Beetles, US cars did but Euro Beetles had to be locked using the interior door handle. |
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60ragtop Bonneville Belt Bitch

Joined: March 13, 2006 Posts: 7801 Location: Big Wonderful WYO 82401
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Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2018 4:50 am Post subject: Re: why the handle difference? |
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no key slot like the one on the left
_________________ Rick
Certified Mechanic by the State of Michigan in 1977
ASA certified in 1987
Certified Hunter Wheel Alignment Master Technician 1986
tasb wrote: |
I've restored a large number too, but I don't toot my horn quite as loud.
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maybe he just snapped cause his car sucked  |
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flyboy161 Samba Member

Joined: December 26, 2009 Posts: 2135 Location: Perry, GA
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Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:00 am Post subject: Re: why the handle difference? |
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Actually, I’ve been through the owners manuals for ‘58 and for 61-65 and there is no mention whatsoever about door locks (locking or unlocking). Only mention is of cold weather lubrication.
With that said, my ‘64 handles inside can be used to lock the doors, but when closing from outside I have to push the button on the door handle and hold it while I close the door. Otherwise it just unlocks when it latches. It’s been a struggle teaching my college educated daughter the concept of locking the door on the passenger side when she is getting out. (Open door, push handle forward, get out, push outside button, shut door, release button, test, repeat as necessary)  _________________ 1968 Westfalia
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=792825&highlight=
My father's 1970 Beetle-
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=603879
The 1964...Diamond in the rough
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=612776
My 1958 Morocco Bug-
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=611483 |
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far rider  Samba Member

Joined: August 30, 2005 Posts: 929 Location: Rutland, VT
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Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2025 9:53 am Post subject: Re: why the handle difference? |
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Car is a 61. Wanting to replace with better condition ones. Can I use up to 64 handles with no issue? TIA _________________ 67 zenith blue sunroof
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Bobs67vwagen Samba Member
Joined: March 27, 2005 Posts: 160 Location: Eastern north carolina
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Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2025 4:02 pm Post subject: Re: why the handle difference? |
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I always liked the drivers side only keyed handle because being an inexpensive simple car I wanted to stay with that theme and I felt it also looked cleaner. Just my 2 cents! |
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glutamodo  The Android

Joined: July 13, 2004 Posts: 26515 Location: Douglas, WY
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Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2025 6:31 pm Post subject: Re: why the handle difference? |
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far rider wrote: |
Car is a 61. Wanting to replace with better condition ones. Can I use up to 64 handles with no issue? TIA |
Yes you can. Early in 1964 the USA models got revised door handles but before that they were the same back to 1961. ( And 1960 were about the same but the key slot on the driver's side handle was vertical instead of horizontal that year ) _________________ Andy T.
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