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PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2018 6:52 pm    Post subject: Dash Switch Escutcheon Tool Reply with quote

After much looking I've determined that my dash switch escutcheon tool has gone the way of the DoDo Bird.
Probably lent it to someone years ago, haven't needed it and now haven't a clue as to its where abouts.

I could order one but I'll probably make one.
To that end I stumbled across this post about making one out of 1/2 pipe......

http://www.speedyjim.net/htm/tool.htm

Maybe in the next day or so I'll whip one up.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2018 12:13 am    Post subject: Re: Dash Switch Escutcheon Tool Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2018 3:38 am    Post subject: Re: Dash Switch Escutcheon Tool Reply with quote

Yeah........ Umm ......... No. ^^^^^

At my age I figure I'll use it twice more.

Once to remove the switches on this Ghia and again to install them.

A piece of pipe from the scrap pile and a brand new 16d nail will serve me just fine thanks. Laughing

Or maybe I'll just forego that fancy nail and drill a hole that my #2 Phillips screw driver shank will to fit into....... nice padded handle and all......... the lap of luxury.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2018 4:23 am    Post subject: Re: Dash Switch Escutcheon Tool Reply with quote

Ok.....
What can we do with these??? Think Think

The one with the air fitting intrigues me......

That fitting may actually become the bit of the tool.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2018 4:52 am    Post subject: Re: Dash Switch Escutcheon Tool Reply with quote

Well, the air fitting does not fit over the headlight switch shaft.

Easy enough, drill it out!

Find out what size hole I need.......

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Select the drill bit.......

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And drill it out......

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But wait!
The drill bit is NOT cutting, it is just spinning on the surface!
Oh, Crap!
This fitting is hardened steel!
OK..... we can fix that. Hardened steel is simply rearranging the molecular structure of steel by using controlled heat and cooling.

A little heat to red hot will fix this pronto!
(I removed it from the vise because the massive iron jaws of the vice would be a HUGE heat sink and it would take FOREVER to heat that nipple up to red hot while clamped) it's pretty once the metal reaches red hot.

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While still red hot back to the vice and I drill the hole....... it pops through like soft butter!

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I'll go get some breakfast while this thing cools slowly in the vice. Quench it too quickly and the hardness returns which will make the next step of file work more difficult.




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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2018 5:26 am    Post subject: Re: Dash Switch Escutcheon Tool Reply with quote

Surely I'm not the only one who uses a careful hand and a pair of fine needle-nose pliers for the job?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2018 5:44 am    Post subject: Re: Dash Switch Escutcheon Tool Reply with quote

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Surely I'm not the only one who uses a careful hand and a pair of fine needle-nose pliers for the job?


You are not.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2018 6:10 am    Post subject: Re: Dash Switch Escutcheon Tool Reply with quote

I got the 4 way one off easily using a US Nickel and a pair of pliers. There wasn't a shaft to work around.

The others were so tight and so corroded that they were not yielding to needle nose pliers, a drift and small ball peen hammer worked fine until the switch became loose and then I needed a third hand to hold the switch as the other two hands worked the drift and hammer. The threads were tight almost all the way out.

Anyway, after a Piece of toast (buttered of course!), 2 eggs over easy, a splash of coffee and a glass of juice (Grape) and I'm back in the garage.

First, Does the drilled out fitting fit over the shaft?

Yes it does, but the entire assembly is too long and the turn signal lever is in the way....

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Simple fix, out comes mr. hacksaw....

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A little file work to remove burrs inside and outside.....

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Here is the escutcheon from my 4 way switch to use as a pattern for fitting.

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Hack saw down both sides to the right and left of center leaving a tang wider than the escutcheon slot......

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Cut off the outer part to leave the center tang.....

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Using the Escutcheon as a guide I filed the tang to fit, both width and angle....

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To rotate the tool I could use a pair pliers or vice grips, but that's primitive!

I figured I'd make a 12mm wrench fit, it is a German car after all and I'll be carrying metric tools in my highway kit.
I could go fancy and make a hex for a socket but I wimped out and made two flats 180* from each other.....

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I Tried it on the Headlight switch and then the wiper switch.
The nut was SO TIGHT on the wiper switch I had to use a hammer and drift to break it loose but once loose it spun right off easily using the tool.

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Honestly, with stopping to stage and take photos this took me a total of 15 working minutes to make. Without documenting the steps? probably 10 minutes.

It has taken me longer to write this HOW TO than it took to make the tool.

I'll throw it in my travel kit.... just in case.

Just a note, it would probably be best to have a little larger diameter stock to make the tool from. Mine catches fine..... but only on the inner part of the slots. A larger diameter would give a more secure "bite" to the tool.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2018 11:51 am    Post subject: Re: Dash Switch Escutcheon Tool Reply with quote

Why were my escutcheons so tight, so hard to remove?

Answer, simple corrosion.......

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I used a wire brush made for cleaning gun barrels and a basic wire wheel........ these things shine like new!

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2018 1:06 pm    Post subject: Re: Dash Switch Escutcheon Tool Reply with quote

Nice work Sir! Great "how-to" also! Thanks for sharing! You are my kind of VW enthusiast...

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 4:29 pm    Post subject: Re: Dash Switch Escutcheon Tool Reply with quote

Figment wrote:
Surely I'm not the only one who uses a careful hand and a pair of fine needle-nose pliers for the job?


You are not alone brother.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 4:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Dash Switch Escutcheon Tool Reply with quote

I challenge you needle nose plier guys to have gotten these off using that method!

These were STUCK!!

And were tight all the way off.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 5:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Dash Switch Escutcheon Tool Reply with quote

Pretty sure I sacrificed an SAE socket to make my tool.

I mean, they aren't good for much else ... Wink

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 7:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Dash Switch Escutcheon Tool Reply with quote

I feel fortunate to have removed mine with ease... Don't recall how I removed them, but they certainly were not stuck. Seems like a lot of work to remove/install a couple parts... I probably would have bought the tool. Well done.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 4:26 am    Post subject: Re: Dash Switch Escutcheon Tool Reply with quote

I am a huge believer of having the tool for the job.

Depending upon the job and frequency of it, that determines the quality of the tool.
A tool like this? the home made one is more than adequate and fits into the budget quite nicely at an outlay of zero dollars. Sure those pipes and fittings cost something years ago, but that was a long time ago on another project. Even if purchased today, I doubt that there is $5 of material.

Many people look at disbelief when they see that I have 30 some odd hammers.
16 of them hang above my bench for frequent use.
Each one has a unique use. Sure you could go "one size fits all" but the given task is so much easier and done more efficiently when using the proper tool.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 7:55 am    Post subject: Re: Dash Switch Escutcheon Tool Reply with quote

djkeev wrote:
I am a huge believer of having the tool for the job.


Many people look at disbelief when they see that I have 30 some odd hammers.
16 of them hang above my bench for frequent use.
Each one has a unique use. Sure you could go "one size fits all" but the given task is so much easier and done more efficiently when using the proper tool.

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Ah, yes.
When all else fails, get a bigger hammer. Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 9:23 am    Post subject: Re: Dash Switch Escutcheon Tool Reply with quote

iowegian wrote:
djkeev wrote:
I am a huge believer of having the tool for the job.


Many people look at disbelief when they see that I have 30 some odd hammers.
16 of them hang above my bench for frequent use.
Each one has a unique use. Sure you could go "one size fits all" but the given task is so much easier and done more efficiently when using the proper tool.

Dave

Ah, yes.
When all else fails, get a bigger hammer. Laughing


No! Use the correct hammer to begin with. Wink

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 9:28 am    Post subject: Re: Dash Switch Escutcheon Tool Reply with quote

Dave, wish i saw this sooner. I would of lent you the tool if you covered shipping both ways.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 9:39 am    Post subject: Re: Dash Switch Escutcheon Tool Reply with quote

Wow!

That's a down right luxurious tool!

Thanks for the generous offer anyway.

My modified air fitting did the trick.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 12:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Dash Switch Escutcheon Tool Reply with quote

A kid gets a summer job as an apprentice at a boatyard, working beside a fastidious old salt. Using The Correct Tool For The Job is lesson #1.
It was also lessons #2 through 37, but eventually the kid got the idea.
It was one of those summers.

On the last day before school resumes, the kid walks into the workshop.
"Hey, Chief, gimme a wrench!"
What kind of wrench? we have hundreds of wrenches in this place!
"The HEAVY kind, I need to use it as a hammer..."
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