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PostPosted: Thu Aug 17, 2023 6:10 am    Post subject: "Negative Nancy" - 1967 Single Cab Restoration Reply with quote

This was a Swedish import that I bought around the turn of the millennium for the princely sum of £3500.

It had been recently 'restored' in the classic mid 90s fashion (lots of filler everywhere, dodgy welding, incorrect parts, straight axle conversion using basically the rear framehorns etc from an oval bug, a floor and pickup bed made of flat sheet) but at the time I didn't really know what I was looking for, and I was very happy with it and it was my daily driver from then up until around 2007 or so.

A couple of engine failures took it off the road, and apart from a couple of brief runs it's basically been sat waiting for me to take care of it.

Here's how it sits currently:

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 17, 2023 7:41 am    Post subject: Re: "Negative Nancy" - 1967 Single Cab Restoration Reply with quote

Looks like a good starting point, cool you've had it all these years! What's the plan for it?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 17, 2023 8:09 am    Post subject: Re: "Negative Nancy" - 1967 Single Cab Restoration Reply with quote

vwuberalles wrote:
Looks like a good starting point, cool you've had it all these years! What's the plan for it?


The plan is get it up and running, and take care of the rusty bits without turning it into a full on stripped shell.

First port of call is the A posts/doglegs/front valance area:

Driver's sides isn't so bad:
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I'm mainly concentrating on the 1966 deluxe, but I kinda like hopping between projects, and a lot of the time the difficult thing is figuring out how to do a certain repair, so where I have the same area to tackle on both it makes sense to do it on the pickup while it's fresh in my mind.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 17, 2023 8:12 am    Post subject: Re: "Negative Nancy" - 1967 Single Cab Restoration Reply with quote

Cool project Very Happy

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 18, 2023 12:27 pm    Post subject: Re: "Negative Nancy" - 1967 Single Cab Restoration Reply with quote

I like the bus, and the plan. Drive 'em if you've got 'em.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 30, 2024 4:53 pm    Post subject: Re: "Negative Nancy" - 1967 Single Cab Restoration Reply with quote

A quick little job this evening to get back into the swing of things: remove these frozen screws from the broken engine lid hinge:
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(The blobs of weld are from where I tried and failed a couple of years ago)

13mm nut welded on:
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And successfully unscrewed!

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2nd screw put up a bit of a fight, but after grinding back the previous attempt to shiny metal, welding a nice little nipple in the centre of the screw without the nut, and then welding the nut on nice and hot after that...

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SUCCESS!


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Next job is to replace this terrible repair of the engine bay web:

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PostPosted: Wed May 01, 2024 12:38 pm    Post subject: Re: "Negative Nancy" - 1967 Single Cab Restoration Reply with quote

Your Single Cab called and asked me to tell you that it wants to carry something around this weekend just like it is - in celebration of the successful screw extraction perhaps.

It's a cool truck, as mentioned
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PostPosted: Fri May 03, 2024 12:58 pm    Post subject: Re: "Negative Nancy" - 1967 Single Cab Restoration Reply with quote

Buggeee wrote:
Your Single Cab called and asked me to tell you that it wants to carry something around this weekend just like it is - in celebration of the successful screw extraction perhaps.

It's a cool truck, as mentioned


Hah, thanks! 'm keen, but currently without an engine! Hopefully cobble together something over the next month and get it moving under its own steam!

I had a spare half hour at lunch so I dug in a bit:


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Weirdly it seems like these strengthening webs slant inwards? Have they both been replaced badly?


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I decided to investigate some bubbles on the tear corners:

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And I'm going to have to fix the driver's sude D post, too:

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2025 10:50 am    Post subject: Re: "Negative Nancy" - 1967 Single Cab Restoration Reply with quote

Ran out of gas for the welder while working on my other bus, so jumped back on this to cut out the rot at the front:


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During:

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After:

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Nice bit of filler work on the nose:

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Remnants of factory grease pencil:

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These holes were filled with a gummy seam sealer type substance - is this factory?

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2025 2:49 pm    Post subject: Re: "Negative Nancy" - 1967 Single Cab Restoration Reply with quote

Cool truck. Thanks for sharing your work! Cheers!

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2025 5:06 pm    Post subject: Re: "Negative Nancy" - 1967 Single Cab Restoration Reply with quote

Trucks were worked to death and didn't get the TLC a camper might, so they have lots of surprises hiding. Luckily it looks like you have skills/equipment to handle it!

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2025 6:24 pm    Post subject: Re: "Negative Nancy" - 1967 Single Cab Restoration Reply with quote

Mr Margaret Scratcher wrote:
These holes were filled with a gummy seam sealer type substance - is this factory?


Yes.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2025 8:07 am    Post subject: Re: "Negative Nancy" - 1967 Single Cab Restoration Reply with quote

arthurnugen wrote:
Cool truck. Thanks for sharing your work! Cheers!

Arthur

Cheers!

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Mr Margaret Scratcher wrote:
These holes were filled with a gummy seam sealer type substance - is this factory?


Yes.


Weird - you'd think that they were maybe there for drainage, but not if they're being purposefully blocked up!

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Trucks were worked to death and didn't get the TLC a camper might, so they have lots of surprises hiding. Luckily it looks like you have skills/equipment to handle it!

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Well, I've yet to fully prove I have the skills, but I'm going to give it a good shot!

Luckily I think (hope?) mine isn't as bad as yours, and the good thing with commercials is that you can pretty much see all the panels rather than them being hidden behind interior trim etc, but it has had some previous questionable 'restoration' - the pickup bed and floor were replaced with sheet steel, and the sills/rockers look like they might be holding a lot of filler.

That said, there's never been a better time to restore a bus, in terms of available panels and info.

I got out there again for a couple of hours earlier, hacking away the remnants of the inner valance. Spotwelds along the top were easy enough to drill out and separate but where it attaches to the front of the frame were a bit tricky, so annoyingly I didn't quite hit my milestone of wedging the new one in place, so no pics this time until we're there.

Speaking of that inner valance - I need to remove all this black paint and coat it with some zinc primer to avoid rust, right?

https://www.heritagepartscentre.com/uk/body-panels...2sQAvD_BwE
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2025 9:31 am    Post subject: Re: "Negative Nancy" - 1967 Single Cab Restoration Reply with quote

Quote:
mine isn't as bad as yours


Well, the truck in that post isn't me or mine, but he's done a fantastic job; any situation you run into, check his posts and he's probably already figured out how to fix it. He also has opinions on whose metal repros fit better for some individual pieces.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2025 2:14 pm    Post subject: Re: "Negative Nancy" - 1967 Single Cab Restoration Reply with quote

So much for not wanting to dig in too much:

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Annoyingly, I bought two outer floor repair panels already, but now wishing I'd bought the entire thing....



Not sure how I missed this terrible outer floor repair when I inspected it before purchase, 25 years ago:

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(yes, that is a bit of flat bar steel being used as strengthening)

Floor around shifter has rusted through:
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Had to cut the floor away to get to the top of the chassis rails in order to remove the front valance brackets:

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Same over the other side:

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If I was to do this again, I would probably have left the old brackets attached to the rail, and removed the new ones from the replacement panel,as there's really no way to get them off with the floor in place. 'Luckily' my floor needed to be cut away anyway.

Aaand I *still* haven't got the point where I can take a photo with the new inner front valance in place - I've just got the remnants of the bracket on the driver's side chassis rail to remove and than I'll be there!
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2025 9:14 am    Post subject: Re: "Negative Nancy" - 1967 Single Cab Restoration Reply with quote

TADAAAAA!
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(After another 4 hours removing the remnants of the front valance brackets - they really did like to secure them on, didn't they?)

Here's another pic of the grease paint markings:

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And the old lip of the inner valance got used for plug weld practice:

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2025 9:56 am    Post subject: Re: "Negative Nancy" - 1967 Single Cab Restoration Reply with quote

Nice work! Valences are a pain accordng to the two folks I know who did them, so it's all downhill from here, right????

Does the Mplate reflect anything that the grease paint might refer to? Might say '06' and '39' with maybe a 'u.' Dates, paint codes?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2025 10:29 am    Post subject: Re: "Negative Nancy" - 1967 Single Cab Restoration Reply with quote

Well, it's only just wedged on for now, but still - getting the old brackets off was a slog!

I'll snap the M-Plate next time I'm outside...
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2025 8:06 am    Post subject: Re: "Negative Nancy" - 1967 Single Cab Restoration Reply with quote

No further progress, but here's some interior window frame/air box gore for you all:



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2025 5:04 pm    Post subject: Re: "Negative Nancy" - 1967 Single Cab Restoration Reply with quote

Hopefully you are able to fix those rust spots inside without removing the roof. Looking at the flaking paint on the ventilatiion box and on some other parts, I guess your truck was originally Pearl White.

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