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Madspeed
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 Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2025 12:06 pm Post subject: Whats it worth? 63 vert project |
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Ive got a fairly solid 63 vert foundation ? im wondering an idea b4 i list it ...
Have back glass and back seat. heater channels.. pan good.. missing deck lid. this car was running and driving b4 i sold the 1500 sp from it. i was going to run a 5 speed subaru box and engine. yup ive got the reverse ring gear kit for the swap =)
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Pez 
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| Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2025 12:46 pm Post subject: Re: Whats it worth? 63 vert project |
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Depends a lot on what shape the heater channels and vert specific bracing is. You'd be ahead of the game to take plenty of pictures of the car top and bottom as well as listing what parts you do/don't have. And also, do you have a title?
Big question, do you have a number in mind already?
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Madspeed
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| Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2025 1:28 pm Post subject: Re: Whats it worth? 63 vert project |
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| Pez wrote: |
Depends a lot on what shape the heater channels and vert specific bracing is. You'd be ahead of the game to take plenty of pictures of the car top and bottom as well as listing what parts you do/don't have. And also, do you have a title?
Big question, do you have a number in mind already? |
Its all good in that area its a cali car. CLEAN TITLE IN HAND IN MY NAME,, pics yep uhu i got a bazillion and yep i got a 9k asymmetrical lift if there is a real buyer come visit with cash . i thought i kinda let those questions be implied by saying "SOLID CAR"
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rcooled
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| Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2025 5:32 pm Post subject: Re: Whats it worth? 63 vert project |
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That's a parts car at best...you'll be lucky if you don't have to pay someone to haul it away.
It would cost way more to make a decent driver outa that thing than it would ever be worth...
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| Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2025 3:42 pm Post subject: Re: Whats it worth? 63 vert project |
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I see parts that cant be bought new ... Those specific convertible parts have value... also the wheels.
I also see a convertible in better condition than I found for $500 and made a fun driver years ago. I put 3k in new parts on it, sacrificed a Sedan for doner parts, used up a years time and 2 spools of welding wire just to make a decent 20 foot looker driver. I had blast building and running it. Pre keyboard buying days, it was one of the only old convertibles in my area at that time so that's the why and want to. Time lost that could have went towards better things. Sold it for less than spent.. I bought it back 16 years later, only to strip it down and sell off all the convertible parts... Finally made money... yet... lost a crap load of time...
Ill get to the point....
"Solid car" is pretty vague . What's solid in the Eastern USA is garbage in the Western USA 
The convertible parts are worth more than the whole but at a cost of time and aggravation.
If you just need it out of your life start at 2000 and work the deal until you're happy. A clean title, if it matches the body and pan, is a plus but not that much.
If you have the want to, the time and the patience, strip it down, sell the special flop top parts and cash the rest in for scrap. You will be ahead on money but way way.. behind on time
Time is your most valuable asset.. only you can answer if its worth it or not.
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brian rogers
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| Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2025 7:25 pm Post subject: Re: Whats it worth? 63 vert project |
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| I have a ‘67 that’s about the same shape. Find an Old Cars magezine. Mine is dated about 4 years back. It places my vert at $2800. |
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| Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2025 8:43 am Post subject: Re: Whats it worth? 63 vert project |
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those saying this is a parts donor are crazy, you guys must be spoilt for choice. it would be a crime to break that car. 
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| Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2025 11:05 am Post subject: Re: Whats it worth? 63 vert project |
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| finster wrote: |
| those saying this is a parts donor are crazy, you guys must be spoilt for choice. it would be a crime to break that car. |
So.... "what's it worth" then.
I agree... it could be good starter build for someone..
It depends on the "solid" factor.
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| Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2025 12:19 pm Post subject: Re: Whats it worth? 63 vert project |
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| VOLKSWAGNUT wrote: |
| So.... "what's it worth" then. |
I can't answer that as I'm in the uk. here the classic car market is really slow at the moment...is it the same in the us?
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| Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2025 1:31 pm Post subject: Re: Whats it worth? 63 vert project |
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| ...those saying this is a parts donor are crazy...it would be a crime to break that car. |
What would you do with it then?
It's too far gone to be cost-effectively returned to even a decent driver-level car at this point...even without seeing what the front end looks like. Maybe if you already had donor cars to supply the needed parts, a shop with all the necessary equipment, and the skills to DIY everything, you might be able to break even on it. But if you had to buy parts and farm out some of the work, you'd be under water on it in no time.
This isn't some super-rare unicorn like a Hebmuller that would be worth pouring serious money into...it's just one of over 10K convertibles built for the 1963 model year.
All that being said, there are VW 'verts for sale here in the classifieds ranging anywhere from $4k to $40K, but these are asking prices, not selling prices. A quick look on BaT shows quite a few convertibles, all complete and driveable, that sold in the $20K range or less, with some fully-restored cars nearing $40K > VWs on BaT
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| Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2025 2:52 pm Post subject: Re: Whats it worth? 63 vert project |
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| VOLKSWAGNUT wrote: |
| finster wrote: |
| those saying this is a parts donor are crazy, you guys must be spoilt for choice. it would be a crime to break that car. |
So.... "what's it worth" then.
I agree... it could be good starter build for someone..
It depends on the "solid" factor.
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solid as in not full of rust in the places that are f'kd to fix. |
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| Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2025 2:52 pm Post subject: Re: Whats it worth? 63 vert project |
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I’d piece it together with my stockpiled parts and bomb it without a top just like it is. Drop spindles and a 1500 single port and your have a fun grocery getter.
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| Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2025 2:54 pm Post subject: Re: Whats it worth? 63 vert project |
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| rcooled wrote: |
| finster wrote: |
| ...those saying this is a parts donor are crazy...it would be a crime to break that car. |
What would you do with it then?
It's too far gone to be cost-effectively returned to even a decent driver-level car at this point...even without seeing what the front end looks like. Maybe if you already had donor cars to supply the needed parts, a shop with all the necessary equipment, and the skills to DIY everything, you might be able to break even on it. But if you had to buy parts and farm out some of the work, you'd be under water on it in no time.
This isn't some super-rare unicorn like a Hebmuller that would be worth pouring serious money into...it's just one of over 10K convertibles built for the 1963 model year.
All that being said, there are VW 'verts for sale here in the classifieds ranging anywhere from $4k to $40K, but these are asking prices, not selling prices. A quick look on BaT shows quite a few convertibles, all complete and driveable, that sold in the $20K range or less, with some fully-restored cars nearing $40K > VWs on BaT |
its a very good start for a resto. the only thing missing is deck lid and a dude here will make it out of a stock one ... the fucking back seat is 400 for the base. your not so smart go back and chew paint chips =) |
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| Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2025 5:08 pm Post subject: Re: Whats it worth? 63 vert project |
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| pondoras box wrote: |
| I’d piece it together with my stockpiled parts and bomb it without a top just like it is. Drop spindles and a 1500 single port and your have a fun grocery getter. |
If a sale isn't in the cards.. that's the best approach.. It also could develop interest and likely a buyer . Something about an old beater VW that attracts the "how much you want for that" crowd pretty easily.
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| solid as in not full of rust in the places that are f'kd to fix. |
Sounds like you know about what its worth then.
Asking price is rarely selling or buying price.
$400 seat base.. sure.. if someone needs just that part only.. thats a high decent price to start with.
Yes... the parts are worth more than the car as a whole. UNLESS you find that right buyer who needs most of the parts it has on it.
Sell the wheels separately...
Considering without the wheels..and ..back on something stockish.. in NC..
At 2k ... it will be gone quick, no fuss.
At 4k it "may" attract the right buyer if the logistics are right. Shipping can kill a deal.
At 6k you'll be pissed by all the tire kickers and eventually talked down to 4k
At 8-10k buyers will pass it by...
Get an engine in it, running, stopping and driving 10k all day long IF the pans, channels and supports are good...oh.. and a proper deck lid.
Time and effort = money.
Logistics is key ... value in California vs North Carolina is night day difference. A "solid" car in NC would bring a much better price than the same car in CA.
I have a very solid 61 convertible, at least considered for the Eastern USA, It has all parts, decent not rotted patched pans but still could use them along with supports and lower channel plates.
NFS its my last retirement project.. if I make it to that. If not, my wife or son will know what it should sell for by my notebook of estimated value..
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| Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2025 6:24 pm Post subject: Re: Whats it worth? 63 vert project |
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| Madspeed wrote: |
| its a very good start for a resto. |
If you spend enough money and put in enough effort, then I suppose just about anything can be restored...but maybe your definition of a restoration isn't the same as mine. To me, the term 'restored' means returned to 'as-new' condition. To have this car completely redone would require an outlay of at least $50K or more (in addition to the cost of the car) to wind up with something worth maybe $40K tops.
If your idea of a restoration means simply scrounging up some missing parts, throwing away what's left of the roof and slapping on a rattle-can paint job, then yeah, this thing would probably be a good start for that.
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Didn't you say you sold the 1500 S/P that was in there? And what about the front fenders, headlights, all the trim, the top, the front bumper, etc.
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Well, I'm smart enough not to buy some common POS like this and then spend a small fortune trying to 'restore' it...
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| Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2025 6:50 pm Post subject: Re: Whats it worth? 63 vert project |
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Not super familiar with this area on verts, but is this rust? Would be great of you to post some of your photos of known bad spots.
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| Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2025 5:44 am Post subject: Re: Whats it worth? 63 vert project |
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| pondoras box wrote: |
| I’d piece it together with my stockpiled parts and bomb it without a top just like it is. Drop spindles and a 1500 single port and your have a fun grocery getter. |
exactly! or it could be the basis for a customised car...
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| Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2025 5:56 am Post subject: Re: Whats it worth? 63 vert project |
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Verts are very expensive to fix and restore, and finding a solid starter is not easy..
So, hard to find yes, but also a limited market because not many VW guys have the coin to do the interior/ seals/ top/ headliner. I agree, if it is solid in the heater channels, it would be a shame to break the car up..
I would guess if it is as you say and not rusted out, 4-5k moves it. The wheels are a matter of taste so probably best to put stock smoothies on for the sale.
I've sold two early vert parts cars, and while the parts are desirable, it is a limited market.
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