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PostPosted: Sat Dec 20, 2025 7:55 pm    Post subject: 71 double cab new rear brake drum face too thick Reply with quote

What am I missing here. Has anyone had this issue? 71 double cab new rear brake drum face too thick so when I put it on, the studs are now too short.


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Called and asked the salesman and he said he's never heard of this problem. Am I using the wrong drum?

Thanks in advance,

Mike
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 20, 2025 10:43 pm    Post subject: Re: 71 double cab new rear brake drum face too thick Reply with quote

After market parts aren’t always what they should be? Did you buy German drums?

Although it’s certainly thicker, I can’t imagine 3.26mm being an issue with the wheel studs.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 20, 2025 10:45 pm    Post subject: Re: 71 double cab new rear brake drum face too thick Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 20, 2025 11:11 pm    Post subject: Re: 71 double cab new rear brake drum face too thick Reply with quote

Isn’t that a Vanagon wheel?
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 20, 2025 11:15 pm    Post subject: Re: 71 double cab new rear brake drum face too thick Reply with quote

I don't know. Is it? Maybe that's the problem
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 20, 2025 11:16 pm    Post subject: Re: 71 double cab new rear brake drum face too thick Reply with quote

How do I tell the difference? Please forgive my ignorance
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 20, 2025 11:20 pm    Post subject: Re: 71 double cab new rear brake drum face too thick Reply with quote

What I’m actually referring to is the center of the wheel. The flowered one like you have might not seat around the round hub
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 20, 2025 11:25 pm    Post subject: Re: 71 double cab new rear brake drum face too thick Reply with quote

https://www.mamotorworks.com/vw/knowledgelibrary/exterior/volkswagen-rims-what-you-should-know

The last pic shows a round center
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 20, 2025 11:26 pm    Post subject: Re: 71 double cab new rear brake drum face too thick Reply with quote

Oh, I see. I just looked at a listing on CIP1 and they list the 71 bus wheel as the same as the Vanagon.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 20, 2025 11:30 pm    Post subject: Re: 71 double cab new rear brake drum face too thick Reply with quote

But I see what you are saying. I'll look at that when I get to the shop tomorrow. That's a good point. Thanks!!!
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 20, 2025 11:36 pm    Post subject: Re: 71 double cab new rear brake drum face too thick Reply with quote

Yeah I saw they listed it like that but if you examine your pic closely, you’ll see that where the flower petals are the paint it chipped. That tells me that it’s interfering with the mate of the hub and wheel.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 20, 2025 11:43 pm    Post subject: Re: 71 double cab new rear brake drum face too thick Reply with quote

Before replacing the drum


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 20, 2025 11:49 pm    Post subject: Re: 71 double cab new rear brake drum face too thick Reply with quote

I’m probably wrong. Anyway, I’ve never seen this particular problem before but I have seen some pretty poorly copied Chinese bus drums before. In one case they wouldn’t even slide over the axle splines (split bus) and the American vendor knew about the issue but didn’t want to get stuck eating the loss so they sold them anyway hoping that many wouldn’t be returned for credit.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 20, 2025 11:55 pm    Post subject: Re: 71 double cab new rear brake drum face too thick Reply with quote

Gives me something to check, so thanks for the info. It may just be the drums are being made a bit too thick and folks just run them this way. Worst case I'll just replace the studs with good quality longer ones.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 21, 2025 12:00 am    Post subject: Re: 71 double cab new rear brake drum face too thick Reply with quote

Maybe the extra thickness makes up for the poor quality steel?
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 21, 2025 12:03 am    Post subject: Re: 71 double cab new rear brake drum face too thick Reply with quote

The thought crossed my mind.

I was hoping someone was gonna chime in and say something like "The 71 came in two configurations. The super early German delivered one had the bla bla bla that came with the thinner drum and you have to order part number XXX1234 or they send you the late model one that is thicker"

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 21, 2025 8:52 am    Post subject: Re: 71 double cab new rear brake drum face too thick Reply with quote

The flower wheel is called “fumagalli,” after the Italian manufacturer of the rims and is a 72-79 rim.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 21, 2025 9:50 am    Post subject: Re: 71 double cab new rear brake drum face too thick Reply with quote

koozy wrote:
Worst case I'll just replace the studs with good quality longer ones.


That's not an easy repair, the rear studs are difficult to match due to the diameter of the spline where they press into the hub.

I will measure a drum later today and post what I find, but pretty sure something is wrong with drums you have. When the drum is installed on the hub, the outer surface of the drum will be flush with the step on the hub. In the photo I am referring to where the drum fits over the hub, you can see there is no step there, it's flush. Your drum would have a ~3mm step. Photos below are a '71 with original drums.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 21, 2025 10:27 am    Post subject: Re: 71 double cab new rear brake drum face too thick Reply with quote

Thanks for the great info and photos. I think the part is wrong and will order another set with the correct part number
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 21, 2025 11:05 am    Post subject: Re: 71 double cab new rear brake drum face too thick Reply with quote

I"ve got a set of brand-new brake drums for my '71 bus, do not remember where or when purchased but have "BDM" markings. The web measurement varies from 2.75 to 3.25 mm, both sides have a layer of self-applied paint.

It would be really helpful if folks reporting on problematic parts would disclose the seller and brand info, if known.
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