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 Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2024 11:07 am Post subject: Re: 52 panel repair from Austria |
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Good spot, John
Repro bead is is 5mm diameter!
Original is 3mm diameter!
Original stuff just dries out and cracks, so seldom survives
That’s an obvious difference. Feels way thinner too…like panel vinyl v seat vinyl
Who can do some decklid beading that is true to original? |
Is this 3 or 5mm?
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=2200324 |
5mm
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| Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2024 1:32 pm Post subject: Re: 52 panel repair from Austria |
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I believe Christian is talking about the 'parcel shelf' panel, that he already removed. the lower firewall and engine compartment looks quite ok on his panel.
christian, since the parcel shelf is also a very large panel to ship, and it obviously needs bending and tweaking to install....here is my idea. go ask a local metal shop ( Spengler, Laserschneider, CNC Schlosserei) who can bend/stamp the beads into 1mm sheetmetal on an CNC assisted bench stamp. it should be really easy for such a shop to produce the whole sheet in one piece. it would look just like corrugated roofing tin. you would have to cut/shrink, weld and flatten all of the bead ends yourself. but that is very doable. I also made my own metal die and stamp male/female molds so I can improve the look of the bead ends.
these are just examples to give you an idea (front floors and belly pans).
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I also have a big problem with the horizontal fire wall above the engine, klassic fab doesn't have it anymore.
-Christian |
Maybe Mark Spicer can help you out. He does make the panel between the engine bay and the cargo floor. I assume the shelf panel above the engine bay has the same rib patern;
https://www.type29.co.uk/product/engine-bay-to-cargo-floor-panel-vin-panel/ |
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Ik, thanks günter,good idea!! i will give it a try when i am there!!
-Christian
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| Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2024 3:36 pm Post subject: Re: 52 panel repair from Austria |
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yes, both starboard (right) and port (left) side battery trays are one piece with the seal channel panel (this is a wolfsburg bus feature). 1950-1952 uses these small little tabs/brackets that the spring hold-down clips attach to for the battery. Also note the divider panel on the port side does not have a drain hole at the forward bottom end of it. Also see how the corner itself where it welds to the mud flap is straight, not curved.
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| Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2024 3:40 pm Post subject: Re: 52 panel repair from Austria |
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I am thinking hard about make it year correct vs a good later battery scrwing latch from -67?
-Christian
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details are of utmost importance, especially on early buses...this is what sets them apart from later.
I have a 52 deluxe and 52 kombi at my shop right now if you need any other detail references.
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| Posted: Sat Dec 07, 2024 3:31 am Post subject: Re: 52 panel repair from Austria |
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Is that 3.6mm?
Mike’s beading comes with a white plastic piping insert
Decrepit original stuff I have here doesn’t have this piping; it just seems to have a very thin strip of material (twine) in there
So it’s 1) Thinner vinyl 2) No piping as such…just twine
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| Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2024 7:03 am Post subject: Re: 52 panel repair from Austria |
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Here are some decklid beading detail pictures with thanks to Mark Rafferty
Original
^shows og twine insert
^og twine thickness
^og beading thickness
^og material thickness
Lapriore Repro
This has a similar twine insert to original, and looks to have a closer beading thickness to original
^repro beading thickness
^repro material thickness
So we are only talking of a beading difference really between 3.67mm and 4.25/5mm.
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| Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2024 5:50 am Post subject: Re: 52 panel repair from Austria |
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Very nice metalwork there!
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| Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2024 5:57 am Post subject: Re: 52 panel repair from Austria |
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NICE ! I also love the way you are doing things ! Of course there are so many different ways to go on a restoration, but often it seems, people are taking repair and patch panels too serious and cut away way too much original metal, only to replace it with a bad fitting aftermarket panel.
Your way of doing it on this barndoor ( as you did on the 67 Sparsamba) is just another league... beautiful ! 
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| Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2024 6:25 am Post subject: Re: 52 panel repair from Austria |
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I always enjoy these rusty barn door bus revival threads by folks that take the time to fix the metal the right way. Thanks for taking us along. 
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