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Bobnotch
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 Posted: Wed May 21, 2025 1:56 pm Post subject: Re: 1964 Safari Beige Notchback Preservation |
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Is it an extra? Just asking as you basically made one good engine out of two.
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http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=249390 -been busy working
64 T-34 Ghia...aka Wolfie, under construction... http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=412120
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KylanC
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| Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2025 6:08 pm Post subject: Re: 1964 Safari Beige Notchback Preservation |
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Womp. Womp.. Well I guess I gotta check the diaphragm for cracks, splits, or other damage.. Interesting cause the consistency of the fluid in the flange is more oil like and doesn't smell like gasoline.. although it's not as thick as oil which makes me believe somehow the gas is getting into the oil... I've never had to deal with this before let alone seen it so I don't really know what it looks/feels/smells like, but my thoughts and educated guess tell me fuel is getting past the diaphragm and that the fluid in the flange/seeping onto the block is fuel. Coming out one more time for inspection. Checking mating surfaces and condition of rubber parts/diaphragm. This is the ONLY leak this motor has. I can't say the same for the transaxle, but the fact that this is the only leak this motor has is amazing with it having only 2,000ish miles on it since rebuild. Any further insight or knowledge with this experience above would be appreciated.
Next on the list of to do's after solving this, install a better clutch shaft return spring, new bushings/clips for the clutch fork, and new shock absorbers all the way around. more updates to be done soon. Til then, getting back to work.
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KylanC
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| Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2025 8:58 am Post subject: Re: 1964 Safari Beige Notchback Preservation |
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Newer versions of this pump base have small (ca. 3mm) drain holes. |
So to confirm, or further understand, it very well could be oil coming up with the pump rod and filling into the flange and so in later years they remade the flange with the drain holes so the oil that lubricates the rod drains out the sides while on its way up with the rod. Correct? Therefore my issue here is oil pumping up with the rod and filling in the spots of the flange?
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Bobnotch
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| Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2025 10:12 am Post subject: Re: 1964 Safari Beige Notchback Preservation |
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That's what it sounds like to me. I haven't used a mechanical pump in years (other than as a "block off" plate), so I don't know for sure.
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71 Notch ...aka Krunchy; build pics here;
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=249390 -been busy working
64 T-34 Ghia...aka Wolfie, under construction... http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=412120
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KylanC
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| Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2025 8:38 pm Post subject: Re: 1964 Safari Beige Notchback Preservation |
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So the oil leak from the fuel pump base is not yet really solved.. I want to measure the oil pressure thinking that that is the issue. I got a new plastic flange base and also filed the crap out of the bottom of the pump to flatten it and it definitely helped but didn't solve it.. Might have to file it a little more even though I thought it was dead flat when checking it against a square.
Anyways, onto the next issue I've run into. This is completely unrelated. I've been not enjoying how the clutch pedal feels for some time now but I'm just now deciding to do something about it. The spring is just very weak and felt bad. I had 2 (what I thought were good) spares. Well I was "testing" the fitment and saw just how off they were to the one that was on the car.
the bottom spring is the one that was previously installed on the car. The other 2 springs notice how the end are pointing down in a very dramatic different angle. When I test fit both "new" springs they were so far off from where they are supposed to sit on the transmission.
Notice how it is pointing straight down. I know it is supposed to be somewhat difficult to get into place but after watching some videos cause I was scratching my head. All the guys who replaced this spring it showed that the tail of the spring wasn't pointing that far down like the new ones I had. I checked the parts book and noticed that indeed there are 2 different springs. It changed sometime mid 1972 from what I can tell.
I have no idea what the other springs look like installed on the transmission or how they truthfully differ from the earlier ones, but I would be willing to bet that I have the later springs even though I bought them new from my local general vw parts store. Are the new ones the later ones that are sold? Does anybody have some light they can shine on this? Am I correct in thinking that I have the later ones or are the springs just that way?
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