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clark77type2 Samba Member
Joined: March 18, 2012 Posts: 24 Location: Cooper Landing, AK
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Posted: Fri May 01, 2015 1:54 pm Post subject: Motive Power Bleeder |
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Anyone here have one of these? I just bought one on amazon, but the adapter isn't right. The one I bought is the model 0109 european black label. My master cylinder cap is very small, it looks like I would need to buy the british adapter(1110) to fit the reservoir. _________________ '77 Bay Window - Dory |
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white74westy Samba Member

Joined: May 02, 2011 Posts: 779
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Posted: Fri May 01, 2015 2:37 pm Post subject: Re: Motive Power Bleeder |
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| clark77type2 wrote: |
| Anyone here have one of these? I just bought one on amazon, but the adapter isn't right. The one I bought is the model 0109 european black label. My master cylinder cap is very small, it looks like I would need to buy the british adapter(1110) to fit the reservoir. |
Hi there,
Here is the one you need:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0002KM5LK/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I bought one a couple of years ago. Worth its weight in gold. I have found it to be a great tool to use. Make sure you remove the filter from the resevoir, before you try using it. Also, I found it useful to do a "dry run" each time, before I use it. In other words, leave it empty and pump it up to about 5psi...make sure you don't have any leaks and avoid any potential messes. Hope this proves useful! Let us know how you did.  |
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Opossum Samba Member

Joined: February 26, 2005 Posts: 769 Location: Islets of Langerhans
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Posted: Fri May 01, 2015 3:48 pm Post subject: Re: Motive Power Bleeder |
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| clark77type2 wrote: |
| Anyone here have one of these? |
I have one too. Works great!
It sure beats having the wife pump the brake pedal. _________________ "You can lead an aircooled to water, but you can't make it drink"
"Live and learn or crash and burn"
"It's only Cool, If it's Air-Cooled"
Virginia Whiteface (Opossum) the first VW
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1973 Orange Westfalia Hard top, Original owner |
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grandpa pete Samba Member

Joined: July 06, 2008 Posts: 6426 Location: St. Petersburg, FL
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Posted: Fri May 01, 2015 6:32 pm Post subject: |
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Do a gravity beer bleed . you fill the reservoir and crack open a wheel cylinder ; then go have a beer .
when you finish your first beer tighten up that cylinder and repeat for all 4 wheel cylinders and 4 beers
Bobnotch's beer bleeding system ...worked for me . _________________ 63 two fold rag
66 sedan delivery Type 6
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=569619&highlight=sedan+delivery |
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DougB Samba Member

Joined: January 09, 2007 Posts: 1077 Location: Falls Church, Virginia, USA
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Posted: Fri May 01, 2015 7:40 pm Post subject: |
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I have the Motive and its great! Some people also pump the master after opening one of the bleeders, while the pressurized Motive is hooked up to the reservoir, to circulate even more fluid. Worked very well for me.
- Doug _________________ '75 Campmobile (tin-top to SpaceRoof)
'73 Fastback
'52 BMW R67/2
'41 Zundapp KS600
'55 Puch SGS250
A very, very understanding wife |
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SGKent  Samba Member

Joined: October 30, 2007 Posts: 42986 Location: at the beach in Northern Wokistan
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Posted: Sat May 02, 2015 12:14 am Post subject: |
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you can buy just the adapter if you want. 1104 Air Cooled Vw Adapter
http://motiveproducts.3dcartstores.com/1104-Air-Cooled-Vw-Adapter-_p_97.html
Summit, Amazon, Ebay and more have them. Or send it back and ask for the correct adapter. Use like 5 - 7 psi pressure is usually adequate, never over 10 even thought it says 15 PSI in the instructions. The old plastic tubes, hoses and reservoirs can and do split. One guy in a Ferrari forum put brake fluid all over his paint and engine bay when a hose broke at 15 PSI, then spent hours cleaning it up before it ate the paint.
I've used mine on the bus and with another adapter our Sable Wagon. On both cars it got out small bubbles after caliper rebuilds that would not come out with normal bleeding - especially on the Sable. _________________
Canned Water - the new California approved parts cleaner (except in a drought in which case rub it with sand).
George Carlin:
"Most people don't know what they're doing, and a lot of them are really good at it."
Skills@EuroCarsPlus:
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1971 deluxe (sold)
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HarryFD Samba Member
Joined: February 24, 2012 Posts: 845 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Sat May 02, 2015 7:45 am Post subject: |
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I have one and it is great. I have done pump 'n shout, gravity and vacuum bleeding as well. I like the Motive the best.
For bleeding I can see why you might want to fill the tank but if you are just doing a maintenance flush, I prefer to fill the reservoir and leave the motive dry.
That way if I have a leak, I do not end up with a quart of brake fluid to clean up.
QUESTION: Has anyone used the motive to push the fluid from the wheel cylinder to the Master Cylinder? How has that worked? _________________ 1970 Deluxe Sunroof Bay Brilliant Blue/Cloud White
1971 Jaguar XKE 2+2 V12 Coupe
1973.5 911 Targa
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vwwestyman Samba Member

Joined: April 24, 2004 Posts: 5874 Location: Wamego, Kansas, USA
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HarryFD Samba Member
Joined: February 24, 2012 Posts: 845 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2017 6:57 pm Post subject: Re: Motive Power Bleeder |
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I recently bought the VW adapter (part number 1104) for my motive bleeder. The gasket supplied did not fit in the cap (it was too large) and I was unable to properly thread it onto the fluid reserve bottle in the Bus.
I returned it as a defective unit. I am wondering if others had a similar experience or is it just me? _________________ 1970 Deluxe Sunroof Bay Brilliant Blue/Cloud White
1971 Jaguar XKE 2+2 V12 Coupe
1973.5 911 Targa
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raygreenwood Samba Member
Joined: November 24, 2008 Posts: 23560 Location: Oklahoma City
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Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2017 7:49 pm Post subject: Re: Motive Power Bleeder |
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I made a pressure bleeder unit from a contractor pump sprayer crom Home depot and a few fittings and some hose for about half the cost. I have the acvw acqpter that SGKent listed.
I also bought the Schwaben pressure bleeder adapter from ECS tuning for my,water cooled VW.
You can use it on your Motuve unit too. It allows bledding most European sater cooled brakes as well as fitting the antifreeze reservoir to do vacuum evac fluid changes.
A suggestion to pay attention to on ACVW. Make sure you keep the preszure low....under 20 psi....and/or....clamp the connecting tubes from the reservoir to the MC.
There is a reason why the Scbwaben system uses an adjustable chain wrap around to keep the cap on. The pressure can literally blow the reservoir off the MC.
Once....long ago.....I have seen a pressure bleeder blow a connecting line off of a reservoir nipple on a type 3. Ray |
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popuppopdog Samba Member
Joined: April 19, 2017 Posts: 80 Location: Oakhurst, CA
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Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2017 8:10 pm Post subject: Re: Motive Power Bleeder |
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| white74westy wrote: |
| clark77type2 wrote: |
| Anyone here have one of these? I just bought one on amazon, but the adapter isn't right. The one I bought is the model 0109 european black label. My master cylinder cap is very small, it looks like I would need to buy the british adapter(1110) to fit the reservoir. |
Hi there,
Here is the one you need:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0002KM5LK/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I bought one a couple of years ago. Worth its weight in gold. I have found it to be a great tool to use. Make sure you remove the filter from the resevoir, before you try using it. Also, I found it useful to do a "dry run" each time, before I use it. In other words, leave it empty and pump it up to about 5psi...make sure you don't have any leaks and avoid any potential messes. Hope this proves useful! Let us know how you did.  |
I checked this out on Amazon and it says it does not fit a 1977 transporter....hmmm, I found similar problems on Amazon, ie lug nuts
would like to know the results |
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tommu  Samba Member

Joined: November 15, 2011 Posts: 665 Location: L.A.
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Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2017 8:23 pm Post subject: Re: Motive Power Bleeder |
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| white74westy wrote: |
I checked this out on Amazon and it says it does not fit a 1977 transporter....hmmm, I found similar problems on Amazon, ie lug nuts
would like to know the results |
You're getting good advice
The 0104 has the right reservoir cap. from the linked item:
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"Product description
Power Bleeder- pressure brake bleeder, 2 quart capacity, with 27mm threaded adapter (1104) for air-cooled VW including Bugs, Buses, Square Backs and Fast Backs." |
And from the vendor:
https://www.motiveproducts.com/pages/application-guide
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"Air Cooled VW
VW Bus 1950-1967 will use kit 0100 - 45mm threaded cap 1100 adapter
VW Beetle after 1963, bus after 1967 will use 0104 kit - 27mm inner diameter threaded reservoir cap -- 1104 adapter
If it uses a push on cap it will be the 0101 kit." |
I used mine on my Ghia over the weekend, haven't yet used it on the Bus. It does the job. _________________
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