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Christopher Schimke Samba Member

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Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2025 8:32 am Post subject: Re: Projektzwo fog lights |
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otiswesty wrote: |
I mounted the MMT3 lights yesterday. One of the upper tabs broke off when mounting, kind of disapointing.
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I used to sell the MMT3 lights. I stopped selling them for multiple problems, like you had. Tabs were breaking off, lenses were falling out of the lamps, parts were broken in shipping due to extremely poor packaging, etc. And the worst part? The manufacturer would not cover the issue. I ended up throwing about $5000 worth of product in the trash. _________________ "Sometimes you have to build a box to think outside of." - Bruce (not Springsteen)
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pnwkayaker Samba Member

Joined: April 01, 2008 Posts: 976 Location: Sammamish, WA
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Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2025 6:46 am Post subject: Re: Projektzwo fog lights |
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I installed the MMT3 lights probably 3 years, no problems when doing so (used rivnuts in the mounting holes); however, the mounting tabs from both lights have now broken on their own, probably due to either vibration or sunlight (or both). The lights still stay put due to being held in place by the turning light assembly on the corner.
When new, the MMT3 lights truly look and work great, but now I’m looking at options. I think there is another manufacturer in the UK (Slaughterhouse Customs) that sells similar lights, but I was looking in their website and it seems the mounting tabs are very thin also (perhaps are the same MNT3 lights?).
I might disassemble and try to glue a reinforcement to the mounting tabs in the meantime.
otiswesty wrote: |
I mounted the MMT3 lights yesterday. One of the upper tabs broke off when mounting, kind of disapointing.
I'll email the MMT3 shop and see what they say. Probably would have been best to warm them up in the hot sun when mounting. The plastic is rather thin where it pulled through.
I'll probably call Terrawagen about their lights. They're in town here in Portland and it looks like a well thought out solution.
https://www.terrawagen.com/products/terrapodz-v2
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ALIKA T3 Samba Member

Joined: July 30, 2009 Posts: 7215 Location: Honolulu,Hawaii and France
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otiswesty Samba Member

Joined: November 21, 2006 Posts: 1768 Location: Portland
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Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2025 12:22 pm Post subject: Re: Projektzwo fog lights |
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I mounted the MMT3 lights yesterday. One of the upper tabs broke off when mounting, kind of disapointing.
I'll email the MMT3 shop and see what they say. Probably would have been best to warm them up in the hot sun when mounting. The plastic is rather thin where it pulled through.
I'll probably call Terrawagen about their lights. They're in town here in Portland and it looks like a well thought out solution.
https://www.terrawagen.com/products/terrapodz-v2
Here are the MMT3 version
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otiswesty Samba Member

Joined: November 21, 2006 Posts: 1768 Location: Portland
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Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2025 9:26 pm Post subject: Re: Projektzwo fog lights |
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I have a set of these MMT3 lights which I bought in Dec 2023.
I sold all of my PZ fog light bits when I sold the Westy in 2018.
I had planned to mount these new lights early last year, but my T3 pick up was tragically crushed by a very large tree. Lucky for me, I replaced the T3 with a similar single cab and the fogs will be going on it as soon as the weather improves. The quality of these repops seems very good which is encouraging, more feedback to follow. _________________ 1978 Sage Green P22 Westfalia
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asphalte Samba Member
Joined: September 10, 2007 Posts: 2 Location: France
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MsTaboo  Samba Member

Joined: June 02, 2006 Posts: 4566 Location: East Kootenay, British Columbia
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Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2024 3:05 pm Post subject: Re: Projektzwo fog lights |
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Sodo - I think those are original Projek lenses you have. I've been trying to find a LED replacement bulb without success for years.
I used to have that 3M clear plastic lens cover on mine but the light would get real hot and I didn't want to go cutting vents in the back of $$$ original Projektzwos! _________________ Currently:
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Sodo Samba Member

Joined: July 06, 2007 Posts: 10654 Location: Western WA
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Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2021 12:11 pm Post subject: Re: Projektzwo fog lights |
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I have 100w high beams in bus Depot E-codes, pretty happy with my highway lighting.
Does anyone have a recommendation for an LED that fits in the Projekt Zwo holder?
I would like to have a very bright LED flood light there.
I don't think I need a fog cutoff - mainly want close-in flood light for offroad etc. _________________
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Drew N Samba Member

Joined: December 28, 2020 Posts: 28 Location: 14226
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Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2021 10:41 am Post subject: Re: Projektzwo fog lights |
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I'll be removing my terrapodz tonight. I just got my '86 Westy and they have a few LED's out on the drivers side (only 3 of them are lit). Instead of messing with them, I'm just removing them (they aren't really my taste anyways).
I'll likely post them up in the classifieds once I get them removed. Figured I'd give the heads up.
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fh9977 Samba Member
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joetiger  Samba Member

Joined: January 27, 2005 Posts: 5260 Location: denver
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Posted: Fri May 11, 2018 6:52 am Post subject: Re: Projektzwo fog lights |
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Otiswesty,
Can you comment on the quality, installation, fitment, light pattern, etc.? These are on my list but I haven't pulled the trigger... _________________ Joe T.
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otiswesty Samba Member

Joined: November 21, 2006 Posts: 1768 Location: Portland
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Steve M. Samba Member

Joined: July 30, 2013 Posts: 6932 Location: Fort Lauderdale, Fl.
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Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 7:24 pm Post subject: Re: Projektzwo fog lights |
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I had these 80's vintage Cibie "Airport" fogs and had been looking at them for the past few daze wondering what to do with them.
This morning I opened my Projektzwo fog light box and discovered that the Cibie fit almost perfectly. They are shallower depth then the original Hella fogs, but come out a little bit more in front.
The mounting screw holes where wider so a quick re-drilling to test fit and adding some drain holes along the bottom.
They will need a rtv sealent around the backside edge of the glass as the reflector is open to the air. The Cibie housing uses a metal frame over the glass to screw it to the back cover so I kept that frame on the glass to protect it.
The rock guard is a "Dick Cepek" and doesn't look like it fits because I tried the long mounting tabs. The shorter tabs brought the guard into a perfect position down lower in-line and closer with the opening. No picture of that yet.
So the plan is to plastic dip the short mount tabs for black color and possibly pop-rivit them to the original metal frame of the Cibies and bend them around the wire grid for s definitely secure fit.
The Cibie use an "H2" bulb which I will try to replace with a LED so I can use them as a DRL
If you can find the lenses only you might get them for a fair price, but the complete fog light with housing is expensive as they are vintage and Cibie's which makes them a quality lamp.
I found a clear set on ebay for $100.00, but since I have a spare set of ambers I didn't need them.
I believe they might also go by the name of Cibie "Iodes", but you'll have to check size on that. _________________ This free advice is worth exactly what you paid for it.
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WestyBob Samba Member

Joined: June 11, 2004 Posts: 2346 Location: Portland, Oregon
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Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 12:04 pm Post subject: Re: Projektzwo fog lights |
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The ones from Allexpress look great except there seems to be an external mounting loop on the lens case -- can't tell if it's removable (to fit the projektzwo housing) or if it needs to be filed off or something to fit ?
Well, it does look like the lens itself will fit if removed and placed in the old lens case. |
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theadventureneverends Samba Member
Joined: December 24, 2009 Posts: 586 Location: Gig Harbor WA
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Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 11:59 am Post subject: Re: Projektzwo fog lights |
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Please post when you receive the new light. I would like to have one or two spare lights on hand that fit the Projektzwos. There is a thread here where a guy was talking about having an exact replica made of the glass. At the same time if I remember correctly an exact Chinese replica was being offered for super cheap.
Just read back in this thread a little and I guess this is/was the thread I was talking about. |
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OddN Samba Member

Joined: August 19, 2010 Posts: 690 Location: Northern Norway
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Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 4:48 am Post subject: Re: Projektzwo fog lights |
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Im a curious about the light pattern on those FX lights. They have very clear glass compressor to the original Projekt Zwo lights.
The original Projekt Zwo lights are actually Hella 155 fog lights. They pop up on eBay now and then. Also original on Jaguar XJS. They were available in clear or yellow fog and clear driving light pattern. _________________ 1991 VW Multivan syncro 1,9 TD |
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alohah3 Samba Member

Joined: July 31, 2012 Posts: 24 Location: Alexandria, VA
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Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 8:28 am Post subject: Re: Projektzwo fog lights |
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/122360813270?ul_noapp=true
here's an option in Germany, though you would need to work on a shipping plan. _________________ 1988 DOKA Transporter
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Tistlo Samba Member

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Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2017 4:19 am Post subject: Re: Projektzwo fog lights |
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Copys of the original HELLA light is being made in china. i use them, and they are good stuff considering that they cost next to nothing.
DLAA LA1029 is the name. they appear on aliexpress from time to time, and also on varius unknown-to-me online stores. they can also be bought directly from the company in china, but you need more than 100 pairs if i remember correctly
avaliable in different colors, but the colors appear on the extra glasshousing around them so they are natural on the inside..
they come as a kit with their own housings, but when you remove all that you have the lamp that fit directly to an orginal projektzwo housing. and as for the housing, is anyone making a repro of that?
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OddN Samba Member

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Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2017 1:23 am Post subject: Re: Projecktzwo Replacement Brand New Fog Lamps |
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Just keep in mind the left hand drive vs right hand drive difference when shopping for those headlights
Don't buy them from England... _________________ 1991 VW Multivan syncro 1,9 TD |
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