gates barricade 5/16" fuel hose clamp

DanHoug

Christopher nails it. i bought my Oetiker clamps based solely on the OD spec of the hose i bought.... mistake. they were too tight. you gotta measure the bump at the ferrule with the hose on.

i got the Oetiker on, but had to lube the hose with Sylglide to slide them over the ferrule bump.

-dan

Christopher Schimke

Directly from the Oetiker catalog -

baltik · Samba Member Joined: April 08, 2015 Posts: 443

Bringing this back from the dead

what's the right way to size Oetiker clamps?

is it:
1. one size up from OD
2. one seize up from OD when installed over barb
3. OD should fall as close as possible to the middle of the Oetiker range
4. OD installed over barb should fall as close as possible to the middle of the Oetiker range

I have read that gates barricade OD is 14-14.5mm

here are the relevant clamps
16700013 12-14.5mm
16700014 12.3-14.8
16700015 12.8-15.3
16700016 13.2-15.7

1vw4x4 · Banned Joined: June 22, 2005 Posts: 472 Location: Pgh. PA

You people really know how to spend money. Pinch clamps are available
in any size you want. That's the key. Beverage companies seem to need
a lot of these. They are typically stainless steel and are about .03 to .05 each. YES that is five cent.
Bars and restaurants use these all the time. I have about 4000 of these in maybe 6 different sizes.
THey work great, look great, and are cheap.

rubbachicken · Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 1:20 pm Post subject:

those pliers are WAY to big for fuel line clips though.
i use just a regular pair of pliers, for the fuel line clips, those are for coolant hose clips
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borninabus · Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 1:19 pm Post subject:

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rubbachicken · Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 9:47 am Post subject:

go look under the hood on a new VW, these are all over the fuel lines, if you have the right size for the hose, they clamp very well, remember over tightening damages fuel line anyway, like i posted i put them on my van first, before using them on anyone elses, they are fine.

physast · Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 8:26 am Post subject:

borninabus · Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 8:08 am Post subject:

ABA 21013 Stainless 13mm bolt style clamps are what you want.
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physast · Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 7:54 am Post subject:

I think I might stick with the ABA ones from vancafe for now. I have not heard of them failing yet.

Since I am using the 5/16 gas line I just want to make sure they get snug and stay put.
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nmerrill · Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 7:38 am Post subject:

Come to think of it, I think these are only used on the GTI for cooling system hoses.

Phishman068 · Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 6:52 am Post subject:

Are those rated for fuel injection pressures?
I can't see how they possibly can be and certainly won't be using them on my bus anytime soon. They just seem so weak.
Heck, I put a new carb on our Dodge truck recently and It used these, and I wasn't overly confident with their tension to hold on a fuel line that operated at a few PSI, let alone the high pressures of the vanagon system.

To each their own I guess.
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nmerrill · Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 6:13 am Post subject:

Hopefully not a significant drift...

Is there a specific tool out there for this type of spring clamps? I always use pliers of one sort or another...
Yes, they are all over my GTI.

Oddly, the emissions pipes also have Oetiker style clamps on them.

djkeev · Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 4:13 am Post subject:

Intellectually I understand Spring Clamps and the principle behind their function.
Be it the flat spring steel clamp or the wire spring clamp......

The constant squeezing action through expansion and contraction cycles makes perfect sense........

A proven method of installing hoses for DECADES!
In my over half century of wrenching...... I've seen very few actually fail, a few squeeze ears broken off and an old wire type simply broken ........

But.....
There is a mechanical inner force in me that doesn't quite trust them, that force wants to rotate a screw to make something tighter!
Not unlike knowing that Ice Cream isn't good for you and that frozen yogurt crap isn't as bad...... But ice cream tastes SO GOOD!!!

Rubbachicken's link.........

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rubbachicken · Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2014 8:29 pm Post subject:

sorry i have no idea, i don't have any gates fuel line, what's the OD of the gates fuel line, i can go and measure what i have, if that would help.

physast · Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2014 7:15 pm Post subject:

rubbachicken · Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2014 7:08 pm Post subject:

these are what i've been using for the last couple of years, i've gone through 300 or so, all the vans i've put fuel lines have had these fuel line clips these are reuseable unlike the oetiker clamps, and a good bit cheaper.
i had them on lucy for over a year before i put them on other peoples vans, no leaks on any of them.

if you pop the hood on a modern VW you will find these all over the place, and they are LOT more expensive if you buy them from VW Wink

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Phishman068 · Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2014 5:50 pm Post subject:

The clamps I used are:
Oetiker 16700013 Stainless Steel Hose Clamp, One Ear, 7 mm Band Width, 9/16" Hose ID, 12 mm - 14.5 mm Hose OD Range (Pack of 100).
They're available on amazon for $27, so $0.27 a piece.
They do seem quite tight though, and I may be moving up to the next size up for some applications. I have used them on most of the engine and fuel connections with no problem though, they tighten down really nicely.

I am using Goodyear Hose, so i'm not sure if the OD is any different but it should be pretty much the same.
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kalispell365 · Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2014 5:11 pm Post subject:

If you are doing a Subaru conversion anyway, the factory stainless Subaru fuel clamps are the nicest Ive ever come across, and they are on your donor(or any 1990 and newer Subaru at the junkyard).I use them on all fuel lines on the Vanagons.
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