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Jake Raby Samba Member

Joined: August 23, 2003 Posts: 7433 Location: Aircooled Heaven USA
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Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 8:39 pm Post subject: |
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I agree... Dells rule! EVERY carbureted engine I own has dells, nothing on the planet runs better, tunes easier or runs as well. _________________ Jake Raby
Raby Engine Development
www.rabyenginedevelopment.com
"I've never given anyone Hell, I just told them the truth and they thought it was Hell" |
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bugnut68 Samba Member
Joined: June 10, 2003 Posts: 4180 Location: Eugene, OR
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Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 9:05 am Post subject: |
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Okay, let's say for a moment as devil's advocate that EMPI is cranking out some decent parts now... are they still assholes about customer service? Because in the recent past complaints filed to them about a product issue immediately received a "go bitch to your dealer" reply, and I know that there are those in the industry that have received similar feedback.
I really could care less if somebody's well known car has EMPI internals; I'm happy for them, don't get me wrong, if their parts are working for them, but EMPI's train-wreck customer service is another part of this equation. I've had enough bad experiences that they would have to kiss my ass pretty hard to convince me to buy any of their major parts, like rods, cranks, etc. |
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udidwht Samba Member
Joined: March 06, 2005 Posts: 3804 Location: Seattle, WA./ HB, Ca./ Shizuoka, Japan
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Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 9:34 am Post subject: |
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The Italian made Weber Idf's are the cake. |
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mharney Samba Member
Joined: June 01, 2002 Posts: 8353
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Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 12:18 pm Post subject: |
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Well yeah. Now we're talking.  |
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Eaallred Samba Member

Joined: May 18, 2003 Posts: 5756 Location: West Valley City, Utah
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Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 4:38 pm Post subject: |
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bugnut68 wrote: |
Okay, let's say for a moment as devil's advocate that EMPI is cranking out some decent parts now... are they still assholes about customer service? Because in the recent past complaints filed to them about a product issue immediately received a "go bitch to your dealer" reply, and I know that there are those in the industry that have received similar feedback.
I really could care less if somebody's well known car has EMPI internals; I'm happy for them, don't get me wrong, if their parts are working for them, but EMPI's train-wreck customer service is another part of this equation. I've had enough bad experiences that they would have to kiss my ass pretty hard to convince me to buy any of their major parts, like rods, cranks, etc. |
I love how people are arguing with something that i'm not disagreeing with at all. LOL _________________ Eric Allred
You have to remember something: Everybody pities the weak; Jealousy you have to earn. |
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Max Welton Samba Member
Joined: May 19, 2003 Posts: 11088 Location: Black Forest, CO
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bugnut68 Samba Member
Joined: June 10, 2003 Posts: 4180 Location: Eugene, OR
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Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 4:41 pm Post subject: |
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Eaallred wrote: |
bugnut68 wrote: |
Okay, let's say for a moment as devil's advocate that EMPI is cranking out some decent parts now... are they still assholes about customer service? Because in the recent past complaints filed to them about a product issue immediately received a "go bitch to your dealer" reply, and I know that there are those in the industry that have received similar feedback.
I really could care less if somebody's well known car has EMPI internals; I'm happy for them, don't get me wrong, if their parts are working for them, but EMPI's train-wreck customer service is another part of this equation. I've had enough bad experiences that they would have to kiss my ass pretty hard to convince me to buy any of their major parts, like rods, cranks, etc. |
I love how people are arguing with something that i'm not disagreeing with at all. LOL |
I'm sorry, Eric, in hindsight I guess I wasn't really looking at the big picture... no extranneous argument intended. Too easy to create misunderstandings on the interweb. |
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Sigurd Samba Member
Joined: April 18, 2006 Posts: 2639 Location: Rockford, IL
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Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 5:37 pm Post subject: |
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Tbirdusa wrote: |
I'd pose this though. Why is it that you pay top dollar for the Weber's and the first thing you have to do is completely dismantle them and clean them out? If vaccuum cleaners were that way, would anyone buy a Hoover? Any other products that you have to tear apart before you can use them? (Excluding EMPI products)  |
For the same reasons that I completely disassembled my new heads and pulled all the galley plugs on my new case and crank; there was machining crap in there. Tons of swarf, dust and this other oily crap. Oh, but it was a new part and I shouldn't have to clean the case before I use it.  |
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Sigurd Samba Member
Joined: April 18, 2006 Posts: 2639 Location: Rockford, IL
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Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 5:40 pm Post subject: |
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Eaallred wrote: |
Lets just say, there is someone on the VW forums that has a very well known car that everyone absolutley loves, that is currently running Empi crank and rods.
And everyone compliments him on how nice his motor is too. |
Is it a red '74?  |
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BeatenBug Samba Member
Joined: October 03, 2013 Posts: 8
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Did not want to start a new thread, searched and no clear awnser. Is there a 100% sure way to tell the differance betweed the first batch and second? I have a new set that was a gift and I am a long way from being able to try them out. Anyone know?? |
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AlteWagen Troll

Joined: February 23, 2007 Posts: 8702 Location: PNW
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I think they are up to Version 3.0 these days.
V 1.0 Retained the cold start assemblies in the carb body even though they were blocked off on the outside.
V 2.0 Removed and plugged cold start circuit all together
V 3.0 ?? Offset manifolds?
I thought the V2.0 serial number started with a 2, not sure if the 3.0 starts with 3. _________________ Grapes of Wrath $200 Engine Rebuild
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BeatenBug Samba Member
Joined: October 03, 2013 Posts: 8
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Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 5:04 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks. Sounds like I have the second! |
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