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PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2020 3:55 pm    Post subject: Pull apart rear view mirror Reply with quote

Hi guys, I am trying to restore the rear view mirror in my 66 Ghia. I can't seem to seperate the stem from the main body so I can get the mirror backing plate off. I thought there was a small pin running through that I could knock out but it will not budge, does it tap or drill out?
I don't want to go too hard before I get some more info!
thanks for your help
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2020 5:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Pull apart rear view mirror Reply with quote

reckon you need to drill that, but might be worth soaking in WD40 or some other penetrant first
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2020 11:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Pull apart rear view mirror Reply with quote

Its a spring pin in there and I vaguely remember it is drilled through. You might succeed drilling it out. I suggest using a drill press with a flat vise for that. 2mm drill I think. Otherwise a punch, also 2mm.
Replacement spring pins can be ordered from machinery suppliers

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2020 2:04 am    Post subject: Re: Pull apart rear view mirror Reply with quote

How did you get the mirror out?
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2020 8:19 pm    Post subject: Re: Pull apart rear view mirror Reply with quote

Thanks for the replies guys I'll try drilling again!

As to the glass removal, KidGhia2020 I was not sure it was going to work but I figured the glass was just held in place by a close fit with the glass and the backing plate. Just in case there was any glue involved holding things tight! I submerged the whole mirror in boiling water for 15 mins to soften things up if there were.
There was a bit of play in the middle of the mirror along the edge so I used a slightly curved dental pick (more of a curved 2mm blade than a pick) and gently worked the backing plate away from the glass. I alternated one side then the other squirting with WD40 as I went and worked my way up to the corners on one side. As i'm doing this i'm conscious that any rough movement might put a crease or ripple in the metal! - so easy does it.. As I worked up towards the corner it started to get harder to get the blade down (I figured this was what was really holding the glass in, being pinched/crimped at the 4 corner spots). Once i'd got round the 2 corners I noticed there was a bit more free play happening and the backing plate was flexing a little so I kept working and jiggling the glass till I could slide it out. Took about 40 mins. I purposely left 1 end untouched, just so I'd have something nice and snug to slide the glass back into on reassembly. Hope that helps. Russell


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2020 8:21 pm    Post subject: Re: Pull apart rear view mirror Reply with quote

https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Dental-Bone-Scraper-Grafting-Curved-Blade_62546395721.html

the dental pick seems to be called a "dental bone scraper" ...ouch!

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2020 11:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Pull apart rear view mirror Reply with quote

You know about this, right?
https://airheadparts.com/vw-part/mirror-interior-rear-view-143-857-523-b/
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2020 11:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Pull apart rear view mirror Reply with quote

Yes, it was the $200 price tag that prompted me to fix what I already had!
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:35 am    Post subject: Re: Pull apart rear view mirror Reply with quote

russelltatedotcom wrote:
https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Dental-Bone-Scraper-Grafting-Curved-Blade_62546395721.html

the dental pick seems to be called a "dental bone scraper" ...ouch!

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Pull apart rear view mirror Reply with quote

russelltatedotcom wrote:
Yes, it was the $200 price tag that prompted me to fix what I already had!


Re-chroming will probably be half that, but you still need mirror glass.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2020 4:25 pm    Post subject: Re: Pull apart rear view mirror Reply with quote

Finding someone to chrome pot metal will be a challenge as will reworking the mount to make it smooth enough to chrome. the base will be pitted and there is no way to fill it. IT has to be sanded smooth.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2020 5:54 pm    Post subject: Re: Pull apart rear view mirror Reply with quote

The glass is in great shape I was thinking of getting it resilvered. You have "Angel gilding kits" but here we only have a couple of companies that can do offer that service professionally (I haven't see anyone give decent review to Mirror finishes from a spray can)
The chrome is tarnished as hell and I think you are right about getting pot metal re chromed, might have to think on some more on that one. Nice re-build on your Ghia BTW Nicholas! Wish I had twice your tools and half your knowledge!
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Pull apart rear view mirror Reply with quote

If youíre in Sydney and you need to get electroplating done, send your stuff to Queanbeyan. Shane at Electroplating Technologies did all my work. I had him re do my bumpers after they started rusting. Donít use All Metal Bumpers. Poor quality shop.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 1:34 am    Post subject: Re: Pull apart rear view mirror Reply with quote

Great! did you prep the metal first, I did you let him take car of rust remove as well?
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 2:43 am    Post subject: Re: Pull apart rear view mirror Reply with quote

russelltatedotcom wrote:
Great! did you prep the metal first, I did you let him take care of rust removal as well?

Yep, You should have seen the door handles before he started on them. The method is to strip the old chrome (reverse electrolysis) then silver solder the remaining pits and holes and file to a smooth form. Finally re coating Cu Ni and Cr. Triple chrome. But its not cheap. Which is why I pointed to the Airhead product.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 5:01 pm    Post subject: Re: Pull apart rear view mirror Reply with quote

hmm, so I guess they work out about the same in terms of cost, once you are finished? thanks Nicholas appreciate your insights on this.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2020 1:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Pull apart rear view mirror Reply with quote

Decided to scrape of old chrome and just polish up the bare metal.

New thread: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=...7c#9475583
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