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PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 12:59 pm    Post subject: The tear down has started Reply with quote

Yup, like the title says, I've started tearing down the 71 Rustback (Krunchy). I started working on it Wednesday evening after work, mostly pulling the front fenders and hood, but also removing the rear seat pieces. Then Thursday, the title came (yes it's offical I own it now), and I pulled the doors, seats and carpet out, along with the wiring, dash pad and guages. Friday I didn't get much done, other than pulling the few bolts that were still actually holding the body to the tunnel (the sides of the floor were that far gone). Here's some pics for you to see how far I've gotten with it so far. It's looking like it might make it to the 2008 T-3 I yet. Cool
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After seeing Russ's 71 Fastback, I thought I'd share this one with you.
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No wonder it needed a gas heater, with all the flow thru ventilation, you'd need it. Shocked
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I've decided thatI'm going to replace the pan halfs like a bug, ghia, or Thing would, as I've still got a ton of fabrication work to get done in the next 13 months, along with taking care of my customer work. Needless to say it's been a productive few days. It helps now that it cooled off into the low to mid 70's. Very Happy[/img]
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 1:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

krunchy is perfect for that car.hope you're up to date on your tetnus(sp?)shot!

what direction you going with it bob?
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 1:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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krunchy is perfect for that car.hope you're up to date on your tetnus(sp?)shot!

what direction you going with it bob?


Towards Saline, Mi. would be my guess.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 1:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

always a wiseguy in the crowd Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 1:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The man's got guts!

I'm confused though -- is that an early beam on the front? I thought '71s would have discs there.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 1:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's going to be a mostly stock resto (actually more like a resto-custom), but it will get a few mods. As I currently didn't get the correct rear fenders for it (still haven't heard back from Martin yet either), I'll have to fabricate my own for the rear. The entire front clip will be replaced with one from a Square (already have), as this one is way too far gone to save. I'm planning on putting the 2.0L t-4 engine I have here in it, but after I do a cam swap to it (it's a 71 FI engine, which will work nicely in the 71 Notch). I still have to cut off the frame head, and replace it, as it's rusty on top and bottom. I should have the pan portion done in the next couple of weeks, then I can start working on the body fabrication phase.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 1:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The man's got guts!

I'm confused though -- is that an early beam on the front? I thought '71s would have discs there.


It's a late beam, and yes it has discs.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 1:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The man's got guts!

I'm confused though -- is that an early beam on the front? I thought '71s would have discs there.


It's a late beam, and yes it has discs.


Oh, whoops. Thought those were drum backing plates. Embarassed
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 1:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You are doing better than I am on the Single cab. I did talk to my fabricator, and he said he could make about anything I wanted for it. frame wise.
I did get blankmange's engine torn down today.
I have seen that car in person, and Bob has a lot of work ahead of him, but I have seen him work, and it will get done.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 2:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the kind words Russ. Cool Yeah, I thought the "C" pieces for your trucks frame rails would be fairly easy to fabricate. Did he give you any ideas on the rear corner pieces? Those do have a pretty tight radius, although I could probably bend them in the press brake at work if you can't find someone local. Wink
Yeah, I took a few hours looking everything over before I pulled the body (mostly thinking, or as I like to call it... pre-planning), trying to figure out how I wanted to attack it. At one point I thought I'd pull the body off the Roadster, and use it's pan to help do the body fab, but then I thought that started to sound too much like work since I still had to do the Notch pan anyway. That is part of why I'm going to do the pans like a bug, then I'll put the front clip on, and then the rear portion using the doors to help get everything in place. Well at least that's the plan. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 3:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Applause Applause
You're a far better owner than I am for that car, Bob. I knew you wouldn't let me down. When I was considering what to do with it, I first thought about cutting it up, but there wasn't much there to part out. Then I remembered seeing the before pictures of the roadster and thought if anyone could do something with this car, you could. Those pictures of the roadster were what led me to offer you this car. Congrats.

BTW, did you have to remove any of the side bolts to get the body off then pan, or did it just sort of come apart on it's own. Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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BTW, did you have to remove any of the side bolts to get the body off then pan, or did it just sort of come apart on it's own. Laughing


I removed 1 side bolt, and that was in the left rear corner. I don't know why that one stayed good, as the right one was toast. The rest of the side pan bolts were only holding the rubber body seal (not that it was doing anything, as the metal was gone on both sides of the rubber). Rolling Eyes
I am really wondering if I should have gotten more metal from you, off that Square, as I'm going to be fabbing a ton more pieces.
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BTW, did you have to remove any of the side bolts to get the body off then pan, or did it just sort of come apart on it's own. Laughing


I removed 1 side bolt, and that was in the left rear corner. I don't know why that one stayed good, as the right one was toast. The rest of the side pan bolts were only holding the rubber body seal (not that it was doing anything, as the metal was gone on both sides of the rubber). Rolling Eyes
I am really wondering if I should have gotten more metal from you, off that Square, as I'm going to be fabbing a ton more pieces.
I haven't hauled away the carcass yet. Also, I'm not ignoring you about the popouts, I just haven't remembered where I put them. Embarassed
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 4:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

that thing is gonna be badass when its done!

id like to see it in person in saline Wink

is that an azure dash column and steering wheel?!
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 4:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you need any parts off the white parts car, you are welcome. I do need the doors and the rear corners. I think you looked the 71 fastback over, and it is pretty bad, but maybe there may be something you can use.
I want the pan and running gear.
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JSMskater wrote:
that thing is gonna be badass when its done!

id like to see it in person in saline Wink

is that an azure dash column and steering wheel?!
And I get to drive it while it's there! Surprised
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JSMskater wrote:
that thing is gonna be badass when its done!

id like to see it in person in saline Wink

is that an azure dash column and steering wheel?!


Not in 1971...
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Good thing that thing was rustproofed...otherwise there wouldn't be ANYTHING left. Wink
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Russ Wolfe wrote:
If you need any parts off the white parts car, you are welcome. I do need the doors and the rear corners. I think you looked the 71 fastback over, and it is pretty bad, but maybe there may be something you can use.
I want the pan and running gear.


Oh, I'm looking for a few piecs, but I didn't know how soon you'd be ready to cut up that 69. Rolling Eyes I mean I did give you a couple of differnt ideas to play with. Wink Yeah, your 71 is almost as bad as mine. Fortunately my tetnus shots are up to date, and I'm used to working on rusty Michigan vehicles. Shocked
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BTW, did you have to remove any of the side bolts to get the body off then pan, or did it just sort of come apart on it's own. Laughing


I removed 1 side bolt, and that was in the left rear corner. I don't know why that one stayed good, as the right one was toast. The rest of the side pan bolts were only holding the rubber body seal (not that it was doing anything, as the metal was gone on both sides of the rubber). Rolling Eyes
I am really wondering if I should have gotten more metal from you, off that Square, as I'm going to be fabbing a ton more pieces.
I haven't hauled away the carcass yet. Also, I'm not ignoring you about the popouts, I just haven't remembered where I put them. Embarassed


Cool, I need to get some more stuff off you. I'll send you a pm, of what I'm looking for/need. I was going to send you a PM or e-mail anyway, looking for something else to go with this project. Maybe a little later this evening.
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64 T-34 Ghia...aka Wolfie, under construction... http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=412120
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