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ARTIFACT Samba Member

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Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 3:53 pm Post subject: how to determine if I have chromoly pushrods? |
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(newbie alert)
I know it's been asked before, and I searched. The answers worked for previous posters, but I think I need more explanation here ... How do I check this?
Franklin installed the engine in my 57 a few years ago, but doesn't know (without driving it there - but read on).
I got the car recently. I am doing the valves for the first time on my own, and followed the .006 instructions... I have *not* started the engine, because I read about these chromoly pushrods, and I am unsure. I know, I should have checked *before*
How do I check this?
Are there photos I can use to compare and identify what I have?
Thanks guys
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Glenn  Mr. 010

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Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 3:55 pm Post subject: |
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Use a magnet... it will not stick to aluminum pushrods. _________________ Glenn
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exciter Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 4:40 pm Post subject: |
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And usuall y but not 100% sure the chromoly ones are normally a black color! |
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Max Welton Samba Member
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ARTIFACT Samba Member

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Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 5:54 pm Post subject: |
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so if it sticks to the pushrods, they are chromoly?
Making sure
Thanks guys _________________ L331 Horizon Blue January 1957 Canadian Deluxe Oval Beetle
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Glenn  Mr. 010

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earthquake Samba Member

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Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 6:24 pm Post subject: |
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Only the tube is made from aluminum, the ends are steel on both.
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BugMan114 Samba Member

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Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 9:31 pm Post subject: |
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so then how do you tell the difference between steel and chromoly? _________________ 1974 Super Beetle: Custom resto in progress
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ARTIFACT Samba Member

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Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 9:49 pm Post subject: |
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Ok
magnet sticks to pushrod body
... So now I need to understand what 0.000" is supposed to feel like ... Hunting for the feeling gauge... Thinnest I have is 0.002...
Do I get it adjusted to "tight .002"?
I am sure all of this is obvious to all but me learning a lot each day I spend with my beloved bug
thx _________________ L331 Horizon Blue January 1957 Canadian Deluxe Oval Beetle
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germansupplyscott Samba Member

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Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 10:10 pm Post subject: |
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if the pushrod will rotate but you cannot feel any lash it is adjusted to "loose zero" clearance, which is what you want. _________________ SL |
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youngnstudly Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 10:20 pm Post subject: |
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I use the method that a lot of guys on here use for getting "zero lash" and that is to adjust the rocker adjuster (screw) in until it doesn't have lash, then slowly back it out while using your fingers to spin the pushrod. When you can spin the pushrod easy with your fingers but there is no lash present, that is considered to be zero.
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Toby from MO Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 11:12 pm Post subject: |
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...with chromoly push rods...is the "loose zero" adjustment on both intake and exhaust valve? Local shop owner had mentioned he was running .002" on intake and .004" on exhaust...but not sure what material push rods he was talking about.
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youngnstudly Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 11:41 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, I run zero lash on all the valves. _________________ Vintage Volkswagens: When you're not swearing by them, you're swearing at them |
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Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 1:51 pm Post subject: |
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BugMan114 wrote: |
so then how do you tell the difference between steel and chromoly? |
Chromoly is steel. _________________
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Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 3:26 pm Post subject: |
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Bruce wrote: |
BugMan114 wrote: |
so then how do you tell the difference between steel and chromoly? |
Chromoly is steel. |
Chromoly is steel but not all steel pushrods are chromoly. _________________ Gary
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