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spacebiscuit Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 11:49 am Post subject: Cleaning Oxidized Metal Work |
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I'm looking for some advice regarding the cleaning of metal work. Take for example the heating mechanism, see my before and after photos:
I used a wire brush drill bit to clean it up but has this process removed any protective coating making it more susceptible to rusting in the future? Or is is it fine to be re-assembled and put into the bus. There are some rust prevention treastments but it seems a shame to cover up the shiny metal work.
Any thoughts?
TY.
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sdavidg Samba Member

Joined: June 13, 2016 Posts: 28 Location: Sacramento, CA
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Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 12:16 pm Post subject: Re: Cleaning Oxidized Metal Work |
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Bob,
I don't have an answer to your question but the After product looks fantastic, and I agree that covering something so perdy would be a shame.
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lil-jinx Samba Member
Joined: August 14, 2013 Posts: 1568 Location: New Brunswick,Canada
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spacebiscuit Samba Member
Joined: March 11, 2016 Posts: 386 Location: UK
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Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 12:46 pm Post subject: Re: Cleaning Oxidized Metal Work |
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Thanks - it was a surprisngly easy job. The drill bit was super inexpensive and although I had to finish some of the tight spots with sand paper the drill took care of most of the work. Quite please to be honest considering this is my first attempt at anything like this!
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dasdachshund Samba Member

Joined: March 29, 2010 Posts: 728 Location: Vancouver, WA USA
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Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 12:56 pm Post subject: Re: Cleaning Oxidized Metal Work |
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Impressive.
Why not just paint it black?
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Randy in Maine Samba Member

Joined: August 03, 2003 Posts: 34890 Location: The Beach
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Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 2:01 pm Post subject: Re: Cleaning Oxidized Metal Work |
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I would just put a couple of coats of Gibbs Lubricant on it. |
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vwwestyman Samba Member

Joined: April 24, 2004 Posts: 5824 Location: Wamego, Kansas, USA
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LivinInnaVWBus Samba Member

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white74westy Samba Member

Joined: May 02, 2011 Posts: 777
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Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 2:26 pm Post subject: Re: Cleaning Oxidized Metal Work |
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Just bought some of this:
https://www.amazon.com/RPM-Rust-Prevention-Magic-oz/dp/B00ITVG8IK
I'm yet to try it out. However, I've seen others use it with good results. I will be using it on sliding door pieces and parts.
Hope this proves useful!
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wcfvw69 Samba Purist

Joined: June 10, 2004 Posts: 13680 Location: Arizona
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Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 2:30 pm Post subject: Re: Cleaning Oxidized Metal Work |
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http://search.eastwood.com/search?w=zinc%20plating%20kit
Buy this. It works really good. Your goal is to protect it from future corrosion. You can zinc coat it and then reinstall it looking dull but protected or invest some elbow grease after zinc coating it and polish the zinc. I zinc plate lots of old bolts and misc items after removing the dirt and rust.
It works really well. _________________ Contact me at [email protected]
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notchboy Samba Member

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spacebiscuit Samba Member
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wcfvw69 Samba Purist

Joined: June 10, 2004 Posts: 13680 Location: Arizona
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Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 5:08 pm Post subject: Re: Cleaning Oxidized Metal Work |
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Dam dude, did that distributor really work?!? That thing was nasty inside. I restore a lot of distributors, mainly late 60's and early 70's SVA, DVDA and SVDA distributors. It's amazing how gummed up they all are with old, hard, sticky original grease, dirt and other crap in them. The points advance plates are either frozen are nearly frozen.
Amazing what a disassembly, clean up and relube does to making those old Bosch distributors work beautifully again..
It makes me wonder how many old Volkswagens are running around still with distributors like that? I'd wager a high percentage.  _________________ Contact me at [email protected]
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Hoody Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 8:44 pm Post subject: Re: Cleaning Oxidized Metal Work |
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What little of the plating that was left has now been removed. So you have bare steel. Acid wash, prime and paint. |
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aeromech Samba Member

Joined: January 24, 2006 Posts: 17628 Location: San Diego, California
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Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 9:27 pm Post subject: Re: Cleaning Oxidized Metal Work |
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Bill,
Once again you amaze me. Coating metal parts with something like zinc, bluing, Cad, etc is something I've considered for a long time. I'd love to hear more about the product you linked. Please send me a pm with more info. I'd also like to discuss having you build me the correct dvda for my '71. If you're up to it. _________________ Lead Mechanic: San Diego Air and Space Museum
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Hoody Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 11:24 pm Post subject: Re: Cleaning Oxidized Metal Work |
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Forget about the home brew plating Gary. There are maybe 3 places left in the country that do cadmium plating. Zinc coating whether its dichromate etc. is crap compared to silver or gold cadmium plating. VW used gold dichromate if I am not mistaken. It can't hold a candle to gold cadmium. There is a 120.00 minimum and you can send them a HUGE number of parts for that price. It's extra to blast them and clean them. |
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foxmon Samba Member

Joined: September 20, 2012 Posts: 126 Location: Maine
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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 10:05 am Post subject: Re: Cleaning Oxidized Metal Work |
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Could I ask for some suggestions on cleaning up this BA6 belly pan here?
It's got a lot of paint still on it, but plenty of rust. I removed the peeling Ziebart undercoating from the bottom, it left some tar residue.
Should it be stripped to bare metal/sandblasted? Or keep cleaning it up and deal with the rusty spots? What tools could I use to speed the cleanup? Lots of nooks and crannies... Thanks for any suggestions. I'd like to learn to do this stuff correctly and figure this is a good piece to start with
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aeromech Samba Member

Joined: January 24, 2006 Posts: 17628 Location: San Diego, California
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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 10:19 am Post subject: Re: Cleaning Oxidized Metal Work |
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Looks like a bead blast job to me but I don't know the dimensions. It would need to fit inside the cabinet. If it's too big you could have it professionally sand blasted. If it doesn't get hot you could have it powder coated. _________________ Lead Mechanic: San Diego Air and Space Museum
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busdaddy Samba Member

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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 10:30 am Post subject: Re: Cleaning Oxidized Metal Work |
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Too big for a blast cabinet, that doesn't look too bad from here, I'd consider a wire wheel in a grinder followed by phosphoric acid and finish with tremclad/rustoleum.
As for the heat levers they really are hard to see when installed, a shot of dull silver spray paint would be all I'd do. Or maybe something like this if I had nothing better to do: http://www.triumphrat.net/classic-vintage-and-veteran/160243-zinc-plating-at-home.html _________________ Rust NEVER sleeps and stock never goes out of style.
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Randy in Maine Samba Member

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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 5:27 pm Post subject: Re: Cleaning Oxidized Metal Work |
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Suggestion....take it over to the sandblaster guy I referred to you and then either POR 15 it or use the KBS stuff. Be done with it.
https://www.kbs-coatings.com/ |
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