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velvetgreen
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 Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2025 5:50 pm Post subject: Re: 1965 SO42 Westy Nr 0021 |
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| Hopefully it didn't come off as manspalaining.. Just a reminder . To assist in your excellent preservation efforts |
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edgood1
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| Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2025 1:44 am Post subject: Re: 1965 SO42 Westy Nr 0021 |
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| velvetgreen wrote: |
| Hopefully it didn't come off as manspalaining.. Just a reminder . To assist in your excellent preservation efforts |
Not at all, I just meant that I spent way more time than I should have measuring all the dimensions, curves and location of that hole 
I really do appreciate the info you provide
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edgood1
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| Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2025 5:43 am Post subject: Re: 1965 SO42 Westy Nr 0021 |
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I cleaned the engine compartment, painted the new battery tray, installed the gas tank with a new sender and prepped for engine reinstallation.
I was going to clean the engine up and paint the tin , but it's so original and clean I might roll with it as is. I'm rebuilding the original carb to make it complete. It did have an odd front tin piece on it that didn't fit the bus engine opening, maybe from a VW thing? I replaced it with one that fits properly.
Edit: the odd front tin looks like a '71 only bus tin, I didn't realize buses got upright engines with doghouse oil coolers. Today I learned. That means this engine was from a 71 bus as I have no doubt it's all original and came with the altitude correction valve on the carb.
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chiroracer
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| Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2025 12:21 pm Post subject: Re: 1965 SO42 Westy Nr 0021 |
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Cool engine . 71 complete bus engines are a thing , the pinnacle of the upright 1600.Great to keep the package original albeit not to this bus.
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edgood1
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| Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2025 6:25 am Post subject: Re: 1965 SO42 Westy Nr 0021 |
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I was trying to convince myself to use the engine as-is, with rusty heater boxes but my better judgement got the better of me. I was dreading the job because working with old exhaust parts flat out sucks. This morning I bit the bullet and dove in. I only broke off one stud (but I broke it three times trying to get it out). I drilled it out and tapped it
I opted to use a good used set of heater boxes to match the style of the engine. I have a few sets of newer aftermarket ones kicking around but I trust the originals better and they work nicely on this engine.
Here they are installed
The old ones in the garbage where they belong
The job sucked as expected but could have been a lot worse.
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von_hansel 
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| Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2025 7:57 am Post subject: Re: 1965 SO42 Westy Nr 0021 |
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Those heater boxes are crusty! Having stock heat is really nice on cold days compared to no heat.
Looks like you will be driving down the road in no time. I can envision a camping trip in your near future 
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swharris
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| Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2025 12:07 pm Post subject: Re: 1965 SO42 Westy Nr 0021 |
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. It seems just about every part is there, including all the rare westy bits.
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So you have the big top tent/poles/rail bracket, cot canvas/poles/bag, Westfalia woodslat rack, ladder? If so, now that is a score! I do see you have the ultra rare accessory wiper knob in ivory  Congrats on the bus!
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swharris
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| Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2025 1:45 pm Post subject: Re: 1965 SO42 Westy Nr 0021 |
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what a score! Looks fairly dry too. The paint should buff out nicely.
Looking forward to seeing updates.
Please take pictures of the water tank if you pull the ice box out. |
It's pretty dry. The cargo floor needs some attention the long rocker and short passenger rocker have a few small rust holes but should be easy fixes. This is definitely one of the better condition buses that I've found. This will probably be a preservation as opposed to a full restoration. We plan to use it as it was intended.
My son and I were just going through it and found the toolkit and original jack 
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A day or two soak in cleaning vinegar will clean those up nicely. |
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edgood1
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| Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2025 6:05 am Post subject: Re: 1965 SO42 Westy Nr 0021 |
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| swharris wrote: |
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. It seems just about every part is there, including all the rare westy bits.
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So you have the big top tent/poles/rail bracket, cot canvas/poles/bag, Westfalia woodslat rack, ladder? If so, now that is a score! I do see you have the ultra rare accessory wiper knob in ivory Congrats on the bus! |
No tent or ladder but I have the roof rack and the cot. I was/am very happy to have the uber rare early clamshell lights, early water pump along with all the other unique things about a super early so42.
Today the engine went in.
I rewired it, trying to return it as close to stock as possible. There were some shenanigans in there like a starter relay and a 6v to 12v converter which are now gone. It went in really smoothly. Just one literal snag with the right side heater box having an unnecessary extra lever that got in the way. I cut that off and it went right in.
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BarryL
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| Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2025 6:13 pm Post subject: Re: 1965 SO42 Westy Nr 0021 |
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My son and I were just going through it and found the toolkit and original jack
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I always wondered what the slot in the screwdriver handle was for. |
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LAGrunthaner
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| Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2025 3:18 am Post subject: Re: 1965 SO42 Westy Nr 0021 |
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Wow BarryL that is an interesting design I wonder if it is for another tool to get some torque.
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My son and I were just going through it and found the toolkit and original jack
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I always wondered what the slot in the screwdriver handle was for. |
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BarryL
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| Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2025 6:25 pm Post subject: Re: 1965 SO42 Westy Nr 0021 |
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| I looked at mine today. On the opposite side is a perfect hole. Both sides are blocked from going all the way through with a strand of plastic. Strange...I'd love to know for sure. It looks like you could put a spare fuse or two on the long slot. |
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edgood1
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| Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2025 6:47 am Post subject: Re: 1965 SO42 Westy Nr 0021 |
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I had to cut out the rocker assembly. It wasn't solid enough to save.
As usual the rust was worse the further I dug into it. It's not terrible though and should be a straightforward repair.
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edgood1
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velvetgreen
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| Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2025 6:47 am Post subject: Re: 1965 SO42 Westy Nr 0021 |
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Where's the pads-or is that what the brown parmesan cheese dust is in the drums  ?? Nice work looking fwd to seeing it back on the road |
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edgood1
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| Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2025 8:14 am Post subject: Re: 1965 SO42 Westy Nr 0021 |
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| Where's the pads-or is that what the brown parmesan cheese dust is in the drums ?? Nice work looking fwd to seeing it back on the road |
Yeah the liners came out with the drums on both sides. They weren't stuck, just sitting lose between the drum and the shoe metal. There's no fluid in the lines either, but some of the soft lines replaced and look new and still have the ate tags on them.
I'm going to Go through the entire brake system and make sure everything is in order. Most of it will probably get replaced.
I had this and the 63 bus side by side doing rear brakes yesterday
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edgood1
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| Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2025 11:03 am Post subject: Re: 1965 SO42 Westy Nr 0021 |
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More rust repair behind the short rocker
There was a mouse nest in the top hat section in the jack point that rusted it from the inside out. I cut out the rust and added this piece to restore the integrity. Not intended to be pretty as this will get hidden by the floor
The front section is up next
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edgood1
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| Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2025 8:17 am Post subject: Re: 1965 SO42 Westy Nr 0021 |
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After cutting off some rust metal to assess the repair needed I decided to bisect the top hat section of the front outrigger and fab up a patch panel. I'm trying to save as much good metal as possible and all the replacement metal is from the panel sections I cut off my 63 bus.
Fabricobbled this replacement piece...
Welded it in ( and cleaned up the mess my spot weld cutter made)....
And cleaned it all up. I drilled the hole the original had, not exactly sure what it's for but it's there.
I'll fix the surrounding sheet metal next and then start fitting the inner rocker.
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edgood1
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| Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2025 7:21 am Post subject: Re: 1965 SO42 Westy Nr 0021 |
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I got the inner rocker panel fitted and welded in.
Next is the outer rocker and short rocker panel. I fitted them both and just need the paint to dry to weld them in. This is the first time I've used "wolfsburg west" panels (not sure who actually makes them), but they are really good. I always expect to have to tweak new panels to get them to fit but these will fit right in, which is a pleasant surprise. They're very accurate to the originals as well.
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