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BarryL 
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 Posted: Wed May 21, 2025 12:02 pm Post subject: Re: Split Bus 14" tires - modern equivalent to 7.00x14 |
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I was going by the 185/R/14 s in this chart vs the 27" ones commented on.
Now that you guys pointed out the size when I look at my bus I feel the 25.5" diameter tires have diameter envy. |
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crofty
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| Posted: Wed May 21, 2025 6:46 am Post subject: Re: Split Bus 14" tires - modern equivalent to 7.00x14 |
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I run these on all of my buses.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/382651774165
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cdennisg
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| Posted: Tue May 20, 2025 7:48 pm Post subject: Re: Split Bus 14" tires - modern equivalent to 7.00x14 |
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| BarryL wrote: |
| mandraks wrote: |
| BarryL wrote: |
Here's a couple from farther away showing stance and size as you requested.
Basically stock.
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Barry 185/14 may be stock replacement, but they are definitely much smaller in diameter compared to a 7.00/14. I remember back when i worked for a tire manufacturer just how much smaller they are compared to 7.00/14s. same thing with the 6.40/15 or 5.60/15 on the beetles. huge difference in diameter.
people did like the radials, of course, because they last longer, and they make you think your bus is faster and uses less gas per mile indicated. it just takes longer to get places and distances are suddenly longer.... |
I did the math:
184/ 14" go around one rotation 790 times in a mile.
7.00X14" go around one rotation 747 times in a mile. |
And that math is variable. Different manufacturers build tires differently, and actual size/width/diameter will vary.
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BarryL
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| Posted: Tue May 20, 2025 6:44 pm Post subject: Re: Split Bus 14" tires - modern equivalent to 7.00x14 |
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| BarryL wrote: |
Here's a couple from farther away showing stance and size as you requested.
Basically stock.
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Barry 185/14 may be stock replacement, but they are definitely much smaller in diameter compared to a 7.00/14. I remember back when i worked for a tire manufacturer just how much smaller they are compared to 7.00/14s. same thing with the 6.40/15 or 5.60/15 on the beetles. huge difference in diameter.
people did like the radials, of course, because they last longer, and they make you think your bus is faster and uses less gas per mile indicated. it just takes longer to get places and distances are suddenly longer.... |
I did the math:
184/ 14" go around one rotation 790 times in a mile.
7.00X14" go around one rotation 747 times in a mile. |
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ted698
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| Posted: Mon May 19, 2025 8:03 am Post subject: Re: Split Bus 14" tires - modern equivalent to 7.00x14 |
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I run 205R14C's on my UK bus, to max out the gearing with tyre size, although these only really bring it back up to the 27" diameter that the OG crossplies were... some of the modern radials are comically small, so the final gearing is all over the place.
I use Mazzini EffiVan - as they are a 'van' tyre they seem OK, and they're pretty cheap!
https://www.camskill.co.uk/m90b0s1673p181391/Mazzi...se%3A_72dB
Not sure if these are available in the States? |
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cdennisg
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| Posted: Sun May 18, 2025 4:37 pm Post subject: Re: Split Bus 14" tires - modern equivalent to 7.00x14 |
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I haven't seen anyone mention these in this thread, but I like the Maxxis UE-168 Bravo. They're radial with the right weight / ply rating and the 205/0R14 gets you the 27" diameter of a bias ply 700-14 with a little more meat, but nothing crazy.
https://www.maxxis.com/us/tire/bravo-series-ue-168/ |
That 205R14 C is an interesting size. I bet it would fit well on a bus meant for on road use. Or use as a steer tire combined with something a bit more rugged out back.
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DanM
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| Posted: Sun May 18, 2025 9:38 am Post subject: Re: Split Bus 14" tires - modern equivalent to 7.00x14 |
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I haven't seen anyone mention these in this thread, but I like the Maxxis UE-168 Bravo. They're radial with the right weight / ply rating and the 205/0R14 gets you the 27" diameter of a bias ply 700-14 with a little more meat, but nothing crazy.
https://www.maxxis.com/us/tire/bravo-series-ue-168/ |
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BarryL
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| Posted: Sat May 17, 2025 6:14 pm Post subject: Re: Split Bus 14" tires - modern equivalent to 7.00x14 |
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| Yes. When I first got my Standard it had 7 X 14s. It was squirrelier and they wore out super fast. But the spare tire well hits the holding lug hole for both sizes in the same place. |
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mandraks
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| Posted: Fri May 16, 2025 8:03 pm Post subject: Re: Split Bus 14" tires - modern equivalent to 7.00x14 |
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| BarryL wrote: |
Here's a couple from farther away showing stance and size as you requested.
Basically stock.
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Barry 185/14 may be stock replacement, but they are definitely much smaller in diameter compared to a 7.00/14. I remember back when i worked for a tire manufacturer just how much smaller they are compared to 7.00/14s. same thing with the 6.40/15 or 5.60/15 on the beetles. huge difference in diameter.
people did like the radials, of course, because they last longer, and they make you think your bus is faster and uses less gas per mile indicated. it just takes longer to get places and distances are suddenly longer....
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| Posted: Thu May 15, 2025 9:36 am Post subject: Re: Split Bus 14" tires - modern equivalent to 7.00x14 |
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I'm planning on buying bias ply tires for my '67.
https://www.cokertire.com/700-14-bf-goodrich-1-whitewall-tire.html
It says the ratings are:
Brand: BF Goodrich
GTIN UPC: 00842199104882
Product Size: 700-14
Rim Diameter: 14
Tread Width: 4.40
Section Width (Actual): 7.20
Overall Diameter: 26.80
Max Load Capacity: 1360@32PSI
Recommended Rim Width: 5.00 - 5.50
Tube Type or Tubeless: Tubeless
There is no specific mention of LT.. or ply rating.
Should a assume these will work?
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Has anyone bought this tire?
I'm considering purchasing this BFGoodrich tire (without the whitewall) for my bus, specifically for use as a spare tire. Since it will primarily be for emergency use, daily usage and versatility isn't my main concern.
If any of you have bought this particular tire, I would be very grateful if you could:
-Share a picture or two of the tire mounted on your bus.
-Let me know your general thoughts on the tire.
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BarryL
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| Posted: Wed May 14, 2025 6:15 pm Post subject: Re: Split Bus 14" tires - modern equivalent to 7.00x14 |
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Here's a couple from farther away showing stance and size as you requested.
Basically stock.
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matthew henricks
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| Posted: Wed May 14, 2025 4:08 pm Post subject: Re: Split Bus 14" tires - modern equivalent to 7.00x14 |
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Anyone have pictures of their bus with Yokahama Y356 185R14 tires? Needing to replace my tires and those seem affordable and close to the bias ply stock tire diameter.
Found a few images in the gallery of the tire mounted but none of a bus far enough away to see the stance.
Image below from @barryL
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Buskraut
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| Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2025 6:43 pm Post subject: Re: Split Bus 14" tires - modern equivalent to 7.00x14 |
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I just ordered a set of the Yokohama Y356 LT195/75R14 (D load rating) for my 14 inch stock rims. I was looking at both the Yokos and Hankook Vantras, which seem very similar... several supplier list the Hankooks as also being LT195/75R14. From comments I have read, this size seems to fit, wear and handle well on our busses, and least in non-icy environments.
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cdennisg
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| Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2025 9:56 am Post subject: Re: Split Bus 14" tires - modern equivalent to 7.00x14 |
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Unfortunately looking for new tires to replace my worn Hankook RA08 195R14C tires I’ve been running for many miles now. Boy tire prices have increased since I last bought tires. I was very pleased with the RA08s and I am considering replacing them with the new 195R14 RA18, especially with the D1 load rating.
I just want to make sure these are the same size as the RA08s since they don’t list a middle number (Europe standard way of listing tires?) . It’s causing some confusion at the tire shops.
Is the RA18 195R14 close to the original 7.00x14 tires? Perhaps just slightly wider?
Also considering, although more expensive, a set of General Grabbers A/TX LT 27x8.50R14 C tires. Not sure if I really need them since I spend 95% on the highway here in the East.
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When no aspect ratio is listed, it is @ 82. Can do the math from there. An old tire shop guy would know this, but lots of younger guys have likely never seen it come up.
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robin.richard
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| Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2025 9:24 am Post subject: Re: Split Bus 14" tires - modern equivalent to 7.00x14 |
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Unfortunately looking for new tires to replace my worn Hankook RA08 195R14C tires I’ve been running for many miles now. Boy tire prices have increased since I last bought tires. I was very pleased with the RA08s and I am considering replacing them with the new 195R14 RA18, especially with the D1 load rating.
I just want to make sure these are the same size as the RA08s since they don’t list a middle number (Europe standard way of listing tires?) . It’s causing some confusion at the tire shops.
Is the RA18 195R14 close to the original 7.00x14 tires? Perhaps just slightly wider?
Also considering, although more expensive, a set of General Grabbers A/TX LT 27x8.50R14 C tires. Not sure if I really need them since I spend 95% on the highway here in the East.
-Rich
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cdennisg
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| Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2024 6:53 pm Post subject: Re: Split Bus 14" tires - modern equivalent to 7.00x14 |
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Will they fit? Yes. Is the load index OK? Yes. Are they good tires? Maybe...
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BonTonRoulet
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| Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 4:05 pm Post subject: Re: Split Bus 14" tires - modern equivalent to 7.00x14 |
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I think you'll find those tires to be mushy like marshmallows and your bus would be all over the road in cross winds and getting passed by larger trucks. Spend a few more bucks and go with the Hankook Vantra LT (Light Truck) RA18's with stiffer sidewalls you'll be happy you did.
Good Luck!
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| Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2023 3:02 pm Post subject: Re: Split Bus 14" tires - modern equivalent to 7.00x14 |
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I have stock 14" rims on my 66 camper and 215 tires on the front and 225 on the rear. No interference at either end.
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