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PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2014 6:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just a little update.
After installing the new oil temp guage and duel oil pressure sender I am now reading over 145 deg. and warm idle at 19psi idling.
These readings are after idling in my garage for 15min.
I am happy with new reading.
Hopefully they are correct. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2014 10:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try running it without the oil cooler or wrapping it.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2014 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

camelcrash wrote:
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ordering an oil temp gauge won't change the oil temps. Wink

camelcrash wrote:
I just ordered a oil temp gauge to see if it makes a difference.


The only reason I ordered the new gauge was because the old one was a water temp gauge.
I was unsure if it responded to the sender the same as the oil temp gauge.


Thanks, Dan
Fluid temperature is fluid temperature. The gauge doesn't know what kind of fluid it is.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2014 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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ordering an oil temp gauge won't change the oil temps. Wink

camelcrash wrote:
I just ordered a oil temp gauge to see if it makes a difference.


The only reason I ordered the new gauge was because the old one was a water temp gauge.
I was unsure if it responded to the sender the same as the oil temp gauge.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2014 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ordering an oil temp gauge won't change the oil temps. Wink

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I just ordered a oil temp gauge to see if it makes a difference.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2014 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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'specially with a 96 plate cooler, beat on it then report back.

Thats why I installed the thermostat, hoping it would bring the temp up.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2014 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just ordered a oil temp gauge to see if it makes a difference.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2014 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I took it out for a day trip and beat it good and still only reading around 120. I even bought a new sender and put it in the oil relief hole.
Maybe my gauge is faulty?
Also my VDO gauge is a water gauge but was told it would work.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

'specially with a 96 plate cooler, beat on it then report back.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2014 9:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I doubt seriously in 15 minutes oil was even mildly warm.... Drive it for an hour...

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Thanks, Dale.
As soon as I can get it on the road I'll give it a try and post info.
It's hard to get drive time in the city. Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 4:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I doubt seriously in 15 minutes oil was even mildly warm.... Drive it for an hour...

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 11:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok I finally finished this install but its not working. I lost about 10PSI and after running for about 15min in the garage the temp did not go up.
Did I do it wrong?
The lines feel warm except the top line coming from the cooler.
(right top in pic)Maybe I plumbed it wrong.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2014 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes,using rubber hose rated to 2400 psi,and yes again to the barbed fittings and hose clamps..........not the best setup at all.

as said in my previous post,i did set the thermostat up wrong Embarassed
thanks for your feedback on this,but maybe just have another read of that post again Embarassed
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2014 4:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, that CB thermostat sure looks like the Derale 13011 unit whose instructions I posted previously.
Just plumb it the way the instructions state and you should be fine.

Judging by the barb fittings in your photos, I assume you will be using some sort of rubber hose. Many people will tell you that's OK, but it would scare the pants off of me. If a hose should burst while you are driving, you will have little or no warning, except maybe a big blue cloud behind you, or a pissed off tailgater with his wipers smearing your engine oil all over his windshield.

Make sure your hose is rated for hot oil, and route it away from hot exhaust components.
Good luck, Mondshine
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2014 3:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok time for me to fess up here,of just what i have done.

i had plumbed from the outlet of engine,to inlet filter,then outlet of filter to the inlet oil thermo,outlet of thermo to inlet oil cooler,outlet of cooler back to return thermo,from there back to return of the engine oil pump.

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prior to hooking all this up,with the outlet and return hoses from and to the engine oil pump disconnected,and the oil filter pre-primed with oil, i manually hand pumped with oil through the whole system until i had a good oil return,flushing any debris out,and insuring i had a oil return back,before i connected the hoses onto the outlet and return oil fitttings on the engine pump cover.

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as far as the thermo after running the engine,i found that i had installed it upside down.
i had the outlet hose from the filter going to the larger section of the thermo,where it should have been the smaller section of the thermo,and then onto the cooler,and onwards back to the engine.

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on start up oil light went out as it should,it ran real nice and smooth,all looked real good,very happy.
a few more startups,no road trips,give the throttle a little squirt,i could here a squeel,bit like a fan belt slipping.......didnt sound right......engine started to idle rough..............shut it down...........this is when i re-checked all and discovered the upside down back to front oil thermo.
i feel i may have starved the return oil back to the engine oil gallery,with the incorrect thermo setup,but at all times it was running,the oil pressure light was not on,telling me it had pressure.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2014 8:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suppose that would depend on how you plumbed it wrong.
I doubt any damage could occur unless the thermostat was hot (too hot to hold in your hand) when you installed it.
You would have had a warning light or gauge indicating low or no oil pressure, and (hopefully) shut down immediately.
Just install it as the instructions state, and you'll be fine.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

um yeah...........that's a certainty........but would it cause any damage to the engine if you did plumb it the wrong way Question Question
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

fix it.so to speak.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mondshine wrote:
On my Beetle and on my Thing, I mounted the thermostat to the "firewall" with bulkhead fittings. The aux oil coolers were mounted above or next to the transaxle.

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Path of cold oil is illustrated.

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Ignore the cylinder in the center of the diagram.

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Re: the switch, place it in the line from the cooler that returns oil to the engine.
Confirm that the "amp rating" of the switch can handle switching on the fan without a relay; some switches require a relay to operate the fan.

Good luck, Mondshine


A QUESTION HERE,

WHAT WOULD BE THE OUTCOME IF THE OIL THERMO WAS PLUMBED IN UPSIDE DOWN,THE WRONG WAY SO TO SPEAK??
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