1966 Type 3 Squareback Build Thread

[lakedawgs]

Funny, I can't disagree with that. She likely won't make the journey to Gary anytime soon!!

[ataraxia]

[lakedawgs]

Interesting, I will look in to see which one is right for the switch, thanks!

[Bobnotch]

Why not convert to a dual circuit master cylinder? Get a used one from Joel or Mike, then send it to Jim Adney to be rebuilt.

I've gone to the dual circuit master cylinder swap on every single circuit system car I own, or have owned. It's a very good upgrade, especially if you're going to have kids ride in the car, or plan on going thru a busy city (like Gary or Chicago), as you'll need good brakes.
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71 Notch ...aka Krunchy; build pics here;
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=249390 -been busy working
64 T-34 Ghia...aka Wolfie, under construction... http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=412120

[ataraxia]

66 is a one year only single disc brake master cylinder

Different part than a 65 (drum brakes) or a 67 (dual master disc)

[W1K1]

I bought my rebuild kit from the local napa
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1973 super 2110cc
1965 squareback 1500E-sold
1971 bay window westy- EJ2.5 subi swap

[lakedawgs]

Found this rebuild kit but the piston is 46mm long and mine is about 49mm long. 19mm is correct on the diameter of the piston. Either way, it is out of stock, need to keep looking.
http://www2.cip1.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=VWC-111-698-173-A

[lakedawgs]

Have been out of town on business and still stupid cold here so not much going on but did remove the brake master cylinder. Previous owner had a new one in the box so I thought I would change it out. Removed the old one and it does not match the new one......

The new one is a Varga, marked on the master cylinder, VFCC 1318-8. Research tells me this will fit a '66 Bug, not sure what else. Need to research more and sell it.

Only marks on the old one are a 79 and a 6.

Here is a pic of the old unit taken apart. Is it possible to buy a rebuild kit for these? Looks like it would be very easy to rebuild.

Here is a pic of the two units together. The brake line ports on the new unit come out the top, ports on the old unit come out the bottom. Also, the brake pedal end is obviously longer on the old unit.

Here are close up pics of the numbers on the two units. Old unit first, new unit second.

Thanks

[Mike Fisher]

Don't be scared of the heater channels. I wish I still had pics of the nice job 'nassau' did installing this heater channel in his square. He told me he was an absolute beginner when he started. There is just cutting,grinding,test fitting until it's ready for a good welder to weld in.

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69 FI/AT square Daily Driver
66 sunroof,67,70,71,71,71AT,72,72AT,73 Parts
two 57 oval ragtops sold
'68 Karmann Ghia sold

Society is like stew. If you don't keep it stirred up you end up with a lot of scum on the top! - Russ_Wolfe/Edward Abbey

[lakedawgs]

I took the driver side fenders off last week. Wiring was a bit tricky. Took a couple of pics, clipped the leads and labeled and baggied everything. Once I get the passenger side fenders off I will store them.

[Mike Fisher]

I always take the 4 fenders off first. The headlight wiring is kind of hard to get loose & there is a small phillips head screw hidden under the hatch rubber, but you'll figure it all out at your own pace!
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69 FI/AT square Daily Driver
66 sunroof,67,70,71,71,71AT,72,72AT,73 Parts
two 57 oval ragtops sold
'68 Karmann Ghia sold

Society is like stew. If you don't keep it stirred up you end up with a lot of scum on the top! - Russ_Wolfe/Edward Abbey

[lakedawgs]

MonT3 and Bobnotch, had a bit more time to really study your build threads and I must say, with the utmost respect, you are both F'ING madmen. Between you both and about a 1000 other users on this forum, I am excited to know this car is gonna get done eventually.

Starting with easy rust repair will be....easy. I bought a crappy wire welder a few months ago and will get a good education with some scrap metal I have and the small patch rust spots I need to fill. Larger stuff, like the rockers, will take the help of a buddy with a nicer welder.

Still overwhelmed with questions but I am getting better about searching THE SAMBA before I post a question.

[lakedawgs]

Thanks MonT3,
I have been studying your thread and others. That is why I want to work on some other rust spots and repair before I tackle the rockers.
Need to get some experience on the basic stuff before I move on the more difficult stuff.

[MonT3]

Hi Lakedawgs. Welcome to the community. There's a lot of good information, advice and examples of that you are going to facing when replacing your rockers. I did a complete replacement but rather than finding donors, as bobnotch mentioned, I got the outer skins and had the remainder fabricated. Being that you'll be doing this with the pan attached, it'll be easier for you. Study your cars lines and the corner as well as what you can work with and what you feel you want or may need to replace. Especially the area under the door hinge. If you're planning on going under the door hinge, you'll facing three pieces of formed metal there unlike the back of the door jam. There's some inner structural work that you may want to plan for. It's a tricky and tuff area to deal with. A straight across cut and weld in is only going to get the outer skin piece. If you get that chance, half-way down pg 27 on my 67 thread is what I'm trying to explain. You can go thru the remainder on the rockers and door alignment, etc.

Post more pics of your areas as a lot of people will give some great pointers on how to deal with some of the issues you may encounter. Look forward to reading up on your progress.
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67 Squareback
64 Squareback
63 Squareback
Engine rebuild
Trailer rebuild

[lakedawgs]

Mine do not have the whole pillar. The are cut down just past it.

[Mike Fisher]

I hope you bought 'cut to order' rockers with any front/rear inner fender you need attached to them? This one I shipped to Nova Scotia.

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69 FI/AT square Daily Driver
66 sunroof,67,70,71,71,71AT,72,72AT,73 Parts
two 57 oval ragtops sold
'68 Karmann Ghia sold

Society is like stew. If you don't keep it stirred up you end up with a lot of scum on the top! - Russ_Wolfe/Edward Abbey

[lakedawgs]

Not at all, the rocker install will come much down the road but I was just wondering.

[Mike Fisher]

[lakedawgs]

Owned a few VWs and other interesting cars when I was young and dumb. Now I am older and wanting to learn and get this one right and not get it on the road as soon as possible and drive it in to the ground. It also helps to be fortunate enough to have a two car garage dedicated to this car, with a small corner dedicated to my beer homebrew rig.

I guess it is good that it is winter when I got this car. Gives me time to educate myself and not jump in and possibly do more damage to the car by doing something stupid.

Question about the rockers. Even though I won't be doing them for a while. The heater tubes run inside the rocker panels right? How do I connect the heater tubes before I weld the rocker panels? Rubber tubing or something.

[Bobnotch]