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Bonesberg55 Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2022 3:05 pm Post subject: Re: New EV Bus announced this morning - Buzz |
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Imadesignerd wrote: |
If I want to go renewable, I'll just convert my splitty to electric, all the while spending less money than I would have to buy one of these. Classic styling, with a modern drive train. Best of both worlds.
It's a pass on the ID BUZZ for me. |
If I want to go renewable, I'll just buy made in China! Get it? |
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iamdonquixote Samba Member

Joined: January 28, 2003 Posts: 2079 Location: M*ssholia
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Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2022 3:20 pm Post subject: Re: New EV Bus announced this morning - Buzz |
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Globespotter wrote: |
It's a garbage overpriced plastic minivan that is already old. We've been seeing the 'Buzz' about this Buzz for literally years. Stop already. |
haha
so true,
I watched this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZJZ_E2iP_w
which was pretty awkward how hard to they have to push the vehicle.
as far as how it looks, not sure how much love it will inspire .
is the price north of 40k ? |
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valvecovergasket Samba Member
Joined: October 10, 2018 Posts: 1499 Location: pnw
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Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2022 3:40 pm Post subject: Re: New EV Bus announced this morning - Buzz |
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NUTSFORBUSES wrote: |
it's like I already owned one and sold it. |
no way! wow! howd it drive??!
NUTSFORBUSES wrote: |
Renewable, it is not in the long run and as Lithium runs-out, more expensive as the years pass.
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unlike oil, famously getting cheaper and more abundant with the passage of time.
iamdonquixote wrote: |
is the price north of 40k ? |
id wager ~50k for the rwd as a random guess, taking the mid trim rwd ID4 and adding a bit. but who knows what the next couple years of waiting bring.
but, if vw is serious about their sales mix goals for 2030 its also possible they will have burned through their BEV tax credits by the time this launches stateside, so thatll be something to watch also. |
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iamdonquixote Samba Member

Joined: January 28, 2003 Posts: 2079 Location: M*ssholia
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Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2022 3:51 pm Post subject: Re: New EV Bus announced this morning - Buzz |
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funny how little buzz this little buzz mobile is getting. |
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edgood1 Samba Member

Joined: September 30, 2004 Posts: 2123 Location: Plymouth, MA
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Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2022 4:50 am Post subject: Re: New EV Bus announced this morning - Buzz |
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I really want to like this but I'm struggling.
Old buses were popular because they were cheap, unique and versitile. So much so that they became cultural icons.
Old buses sold well into the 80s until cheaper alternatives came to the market. Once that happened people stopped buying VW vans and soon after VW stopped selling them in the US.
The new buzz is way too expensive. I can't expect they will sell well.
If VW wants to get sentimental about the bus they need to go back to their roots and understand why the original bus and bug models were successful, it's not the model names or astethics. It was their value and simplicity. _________________ 1987 Syncro Westfalia powered by Subaru
1963 Panel to Deluxe Bus project :::: (photo album)
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aidanp Samba Member
Joined: June 19, 2020 Posts: 26 Location: East Coast
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Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2022 6:07 am Post subject: Re: New EV Bus announced this morning - Buzz |
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In my opinion it looks great, it’s functional, should be fun to own and easy to live with. I predict it will sell like hot cakes. VW probably won’t be able to build them fast enough to keep up with the demand. _________________ 1989 Vanagon Westfalia, with 2.5l Subaru by SmallCar, manual 'box, 16" wheels. |
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Abscate  Samba Member
Joined: October 05, 2014 Posts: 23879 Location: NYC/Upstate/ROW
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Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2022 6:14 am Post subject: Re: New EV Bus announced this morning - Buzz |
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iamdonquixote wrote: |
funny how little buzz this little buzz mobile is getting. |
Well, trying to hype something you cannot get in America until 2024 is a fools errand, where attention sp….. what? _________________ 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🍊 🍊 🍊 |
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CanStan Samba Member

Joined: October 16, 2005 Posts: 1107 Location: Calgary, AB
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Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2022 10:53 am Post subject: Re: New EV Bus announced this morning - Buzz |
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edgood1 wrote: |
I really want to like this but I'm struggling.
Old buses were popular because they were cheap, unique and versitile. So much so that they became cultural icons.
Old buses sold well into the 80s until cheaper alternatives came to the market. Once that happened people stopped buying VW vans and soon after VW stopped selling them in the US.
The new buzz is way too expensive. I can't expect they will sell well.
If VW wants to get sentimental about the bus they need to go back to their roots and understand why the original bus and bug models were successful, it's not the model names or astethics. It was their value and simplicity. |
I don’t think this is practical in todays marketplace. To build a cheap, no-frills, simple vehicle in this day and age, VW would be competing with the Dodge Neon, Ford Fiesta, and Chevy Caveliers of the world. And then people would be complaining about what a piece of crap VW built.
Aside from the white contractor vans that every plumber and electrician seem to own, the market just doesn’t seem to be screaming for vinyl seats, manual steering, hand crank windows, AM radios, and underpowered engines.
And those were all the things that made the original Busses cheap and simple.
But likely, vintage Bus people are not the target market for these new cars. The same way not a lot of vintage VW guys seem to own a New Beetle. Same could be said for the the new versions of Dodge Darts, Chargers, Monte Carlos, Broncos, etc.
Just sharing a name and similar styling will attract all sorts of buyers who never have or would own the original classic.
I bet the new Bus sells well. |
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tpinthepack Samba Member

Joined: July 11, 2004 Posts: 847 Location: clearwater,florida
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Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2022 3:34 am Post subject: Re: New EV Bus announced this morning - Buzz |
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If Porsche can still make a rear engine car after nearly 70 years, why can't VW just make a proper rear engine VW bus again. It will likely be much cheaper than buying an old 23 window at this point. _________________ TP in the Pack (I am a cyclist)
1968 Manx N.O.S. w/ Barrett Chassis
1960 Single Cab 1914 w/ 40 DLRA's
1990 Vanagon DOKA
1972 Super Beetle
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Emily's Owner  Samba Member

Joined: January 18, 2004 Posts: 1022 Location: Canby, Oregon
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Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2022 9:24 am Post subject: Re: New EV Bus announced this morning - Buzz |
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CanStan wrote: |
I don’t think this is practical in todays marketplace. To build a cheap, no-frills, simple vehicle in this day and age, VW would be competing with the Dodge Neon, Ford Fiesta, and Chevy Caveliers of the world. And then people would be complaining about what a piece of crap VW built.
Aside from the white contractor vans that every plumber and electrician seem to own, the market just doesn’t seem to be screaming for vinyl seats, manual steering, hand crank windows, AM radios, and underpowered engines.
And those were all the things that made the original Busses cheap and simple.
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oprn Samba Member

Joined: November 13, 2016 Posts: 14786 Location: Western Canada
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Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2022 1:22 pm Post subject: Re: New EV Bus announced this morning - Buzz |
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Or me!
I would love to be able to buy a brand new basic car or truck of any kind that does not create in it's wake a trail of broken plastic bits, failed options, frustrated to tears technicians and repair bills that require a re-mortgage on the house! Bring them on, I am not the only one good and ready! _________________ Our cars get old, we get old but driving an old VW never gets old! |
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Q-Dog Samba Member

Joined: April 05, 2010 Posts: 8850 Location: Sunset, Louisiana
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Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2022 1:44 pm Post subject: Re: New EV Bus announced this morning - Buzz |
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It just doesn't do anything for me. The New Beetle was more exciting and that didn't sell well. I don't expect this will do any better.
And what a goofy name. Buzz? More like Zzzzzzzz! _________________ Brian
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busdaddy Samba Member

Joined: February 12, 2004 Posts: 52788 Location: Surrey B.C. Canada, but thinking of Ukraine
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Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2022 2:39 pm Post subject: Re: New EV Bus announced this morning - Buzz |
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It must poll well with some target market, apparently none of us fit that demographic.  _________________ Rust NEVER sleeps and stock never goes out of style.
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CanStan Samba Member

Joined: October 16, 2005 Posts: 1107 Location: Calgary, AB
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Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2022 10:03 am Post subject: Re: New EV Bus announced this morning - Buzz |
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oprn wrote: |
Or me!
I would love to be able to buy a brand new basic car or truck of any kind that does not create in it's wake a trail of broken plastic bits, failed options, frustrated to tears technicians and repair bills that require a re-mortgage on the house! Bring them on, I am not the only one good and ready! |
There are some people who won’t buy a new vehicle with all the useless add-ons they don’t need purely out of principle. But I’ll bet the vast majority of those in the market for a new car will just suck it up and pay the extra 5, 10, or 20 thousand to get whatever the new level of ‘base model’ comes with. So it makes the the manufacturer more up front, and the dealer will win in the long run with more trips to the service department. It’s hard to argue it doesn’t make sense from a business standpoint on their end. |
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hobthebob Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:59 pm Post subject: Re: New EV Bus announced this morning - Buzz |
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Well, maybe the Chinese will introduce some "basic" car that American consumers want that is made well to boot. I'm not holding my breath, though! Plastic junk breaks and makes companies money, you know! |
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Malokin Martin Samba Member

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Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2023 9:56 pm Post subject: Re: New EV Bus announced this morning - Buzz |
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Did anyone mention that we only get the fat elongated one in the USA? The short one is at least moderately palatable. |
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Xevin  Samba Member
Joined: January 08, 2014 Posts: 8629
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Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2023 10:59 pm Post subject: Re: New EV Bus announced this morning - Buzz |
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Malokin Martin wrote: |
Did anyone mention that we only get the fat elongated one in the USA? The short one is at least moderately palatable. |
Why do you think that is?  _________________ Keep on Busin'
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GFY's Xevin and VW_Jimbo! |
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Damn that Xevin...  |
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I respect Xevin and he's a turd |
SGKent wrote: |
My God! Xevin and I 100% agree |
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kingkarmann Samba Member

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Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2023 9:55 am Post subject: Re: New EV Bus announced this morning - Buzz |
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It made it to Amelia Island too.
I'm not a fan but I think it's going to do well for VW.
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Abscate  Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2023 11:13 am Post subject: Re: New EV Bus announced this morning - Buzz |
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6 years later and we are still Buzz cut…… _________________ 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🍊 🍊 🍊 |
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