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PostPosted: Sun Jan 25, 2015 9:38 pm    Post subject: Converting non fuel injected 72 type 4 to fuel injection Reply with quote

I am looking for some guidance on this topic and am not finding much through searching.

I have a 72 type 4 buss and would like to go with fuel injection. I am looking at some complete kits off of 78 busses but I know there is a displacement difference. I also know that I will need to figure in a fuel return line to the tank. Otherwise, will it work? will I have to go with smaller injectors? Any other concerns?

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 25, 2015 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks to Mayor Ratwell
http://www.ratwell.com/technical/FISwap.html
This might help
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2015 7:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It will work fine but you should adjust the AFR once you are done installing it. Locate the aircleaner stand off a junk bus and weld it in to hold the AFM/aircleaner securely in place.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2015 8:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glad to hear this is doable. I'm going to move forward with this once I have sourced all of the components.

In another thread, I saw that someone had found what looked like a reproduction of the AFM stand. I am looking around for this but not finding it yet. Has anyone seen one of these available? I do not have access to junked busses in my area to pull one from.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2015 8:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You will also need to cut out the rectangular slot that the ECU anchors into.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2015 8:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wasted Youth: Thanks, I'll see if I can find some pictures to detail what I need to cut. And as a side note, I spent many a years in Clovis - loved that valley oven fresh air!
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2015 8:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rustbus did a similar conversion and had this picture which shows the ECU cut out:

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And it is this shot that shows the aircleaner bracket that I am looking for. I PM'ed Rustbus to see where he got it:

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2015 9:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's cool! I would like to do the same thing to my 1973 bus. I was very happy with the performance of my 1977 bus when I had it.

Yeah... great air quality! Mad
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2015 9:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I trust you already have the Temp Sensor II figured out?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2015 9:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Temp 2 sensor is easy as you just drill and tap the tin hole on #3 cylinder like stock.
[email protected] has the a used stand and other FI parts. email him
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 6:04 am    Post subject: Re: Converting non fuel injected 72 type 4 to fuel injection Reply with quote

I'm adding FI to my '73.

That project is alongside working on rust in the window channels, but my comments start on page 3 of my build thread.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 8:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bleyseng wrote:
Temp 2 sensor is easy as you just drill and tap the tin hole on #3 cylinder like stock.
[email protected] has the a used stand and other FI parts. email him


If I were going to drill out one of the tin hole screw holes, I would go with the one for the #4 cylinder. Might as well make the TSII as easy to access as possible. Wink
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