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PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2016 2:33 am    Post subject: 72 notchback royal SPA treatment Reply with quote

and yes, I did it again :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

Not that I was looking for a new toy but sometimes you stumble over something you just can't resist. This happened in December 2015, I will post the progress in the next hours/days

A matching numbers 72 Notchback which last year came to the Netherlands via Germany whilst been most of his life active in Austria. Not even 80.00 kilometers on the speedo

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Car is rockhard, but rusty at some places. The idea is to dismantle the fenders, see how the situation is underneath, solve all the issues and a respray.

Previous owner did already renew breakingstuff around and had the original interiour overhauled (new filling and stitching where needed)

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the 5.5" and 7" rims where just a bit too much for me so replaced the 5.5 to the rear and placed 4.5" rims in the front.



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2016 2:42 am    Post subject: Re: my 72 notchback Reply with quote

After we dismantled the car for the respray we powerwashed everything. Me Happy :mrgreen:

Enginebay looks nice, the initial plan was to remove the engine for an enginebay respray, but it seems the engine has never been removed so we keep it in.
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Only at the bottom we have some crunchy stuff.
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In the front the only real issue is the "beam"
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we don't really need to investigate for the paintnumber
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also from the inside it doesn't look too bad.
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I have seen much younger cars which looked a lot worse, so I am already happy, so is this a good example of a "grandmothers car"
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2016 2:59 am    Post subject: Re: my 72 notchback Reply with quote

And now some sandblasting before the welding frenzy started.

The windows were still in there for transport so they have been covered before blasting.
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lower back blasted,
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the kit had become rockhard, so removed and blasted.
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The reinforcement beam was already removed so cleaning was easy.
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bumpermounts were already renewed, now cleaned out around them.
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and back on the way to welder/painter
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Doors and fenders are out for paintstripping so we can really see how it looks underneath.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2016 3:03 am    Post subject: Re: my 72 notchback Reply with quote

Have not downloaded the primer pictures to my computer, but the new blue jacket looks nice

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2016 3:08 am    Post subject: Re: my 72 notchback Reply with quote

And the re-assembly commences!!

All crews bolts and nuts have been cleaned and zinccoated.
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windowseals were still in good order (after 44 years) so gave them a good cleanup and started the reassembly.
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What a joy to work with original seals
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Fenders loosely installed and the powdercoated wheels with new tires.
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Installed the new doorseals and locks so the doors can be closed to compress the new seals a bit
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2016 10:58 am    Post subject: Re: my 72 notchback Reply with quote

Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause

Nice to see a second design Notch getting the spa treatment. Thanks for sharing- Keep going!
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2016 1:36 pm    Post subject: Re: my 72 notchback Reply with quote

Tram wrote:
Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause

Nice to see a second design Notch getting the spa treatment. Thanks for sharing- Keep going!


Agreed. Very nice nice. Cool Definitely keep going. Applause Applause
Also those 3 point low back seats are cool. Very Happy We didn't get them over here.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2016 4:37 pm    Post subject: Re: my 72 notchback Reply with quote

Bobnotch wrote:
Also those 3 point low back seats are cool. Very Happy We didn't get them over here.


I agree, they are cool, but after having my car rear-ended while I was sitting in a low-back seat, I'll never ride in one again.

Cool Notchback though! Like Tram, I like seeing a late model get some love!
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2016 5:39 pm    Post subject: Re: my 72 notchback Reply with quote

Wow, can't believe I missed this thread last night. Nice score on this car. Should have it back on the road in no time at all! Congrats and welcome.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2016 5:45 pm    Post subject: Re: my 72 notchback Reply with quote

Donnie strickland wrote:
Bobnotch wrote:
Also those 3 point low back seats are cool. Very Happy We didn't get them over here.


I agree, they are cool, but after having my car rear-ended while I was sitting in a low-back seat, I'll never ride in one again.

Cool Notchback though! Like Tram, I like seeing a late model get some love!


I have actually seen far fewer second design Notchbacks than 1962s.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2016 5:53 pm    Post subject: Re: my 72 notchback Reply with quote

Tram wrote:
Donnie strickland wrote:
Bobnotch wrote:
Also those 3 point low back seats are cool. Very Happy We didn't get them over here.


I agree, they are cool, but after having my car rear-ended while I was sitting in a low-back seat, I'll never ride in one again.

Cool Notchback though! Like Tram, I like seeing a late model get some love!


I have actually seen far fewer second design Notchbacks than 1962s.


Yes, why do you think that is? I suppose Notch sales dropped off over the years, perhaps according to plan?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2016 6:46 pm    Post subject: Re: my 72 notchback Reply with quote

Donnie strickland wrote:
Tram wrote:
Donnie strickland wrote:
Bobnotch wrote:
Also those 3 point low back seats are cool. Very Happy We didn't get them over here.


I agree, they are cool, but after having my car rear-ended while I was sitting in a low-back seat, I'll never ride in one again.

Cool Notchback though! Like Tram, I like seeing a late model get some love!


I have actually seen far fewer second design Notchbacks than 1962s.


Yes, why do you think that is? I suppose Notch sales dropped off over the years, perhaps according to plan?


Probably more like "fat chicks" got cannibalized to fix earlier cars.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2016 7:50 pm    Post subject: Re: my 72 notchback Reply with quote

Tram wrote:
Donnie strickland wrote:
Bobnotch wrote:
Also those 3 point low back seats are cool. Very Happy We didn't get them over here.


I agree, they are cool, but after having my car rear-ended while I was sitting in a low-back seat, I'll never ride in one again.

Cool Notchback though! Like Tram, I like seeing a late model get some love!


I have actually seen far fewer second design Notchbacks than 1962s.


Exactly. I always laugh when somebody talks about a rare 1965 notchback. Highest production year for them.

I'm not much of late models but it's great to see a car get the love it deserves. Well done
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2016 8:59 pm    Post subject: Re: my 72 notchback Reply with quote

ibjack wrote:
Tram wrote:

I have actually seen far fewer second design Notchbacks than 1962s.


Exactly. I always laugh when somebody talks about a rare 1965 notchback. Highest production year for them.

I'm not much of late models but it's great to see a car get the love it deserves. Well done


Yeah, I've only seen (and touched) 3 late type 3s since 2007. One was my own (a 71), the 72 that Tram had, and 1 with a sunroof at the 08 Invasion belonging to a fellow Samba member. I've seen way more 64-65 Notchbacks, and even T-34's in person than late Notchbacks. Shocked
Gotta love the dual carb set up on the 72 in this thread. Looks very "natural" in that car. Cool
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2016 9:19 pm    Post subject: Re: my 72 notchback Reply with quote

Bobnotch wrote:
ibjack wrote:
Tram wrote:

I have actually seen far fewer second design Notchbacks than 1962s.


Exactly. I always laugh when somebody talks about a rare 1965 notchback. Highest production year for them.

I'm not much of late models but it's great to see a car get the love it deserves. Well done


Yeah, I've only seen (and touched) 3 late type 3s since 2007. One was my own (a 71), the 72 that Tram had, and 1 with a sunroof at the 08 Invasion belonging to a fellow Samba member. I've seen way more 64-65 Notchbacks, and even T-34's in person than late Notchbacks. Shocked
Gotta love the dual carb set up on the 72 in this thread. Looks very "natural" in that car. Cool



Thanks for al the positive feedback Dancing Dancing

The bright-side of this "spa treatment" is that the car was in such a good shape it really doesn't feel like a project (but for me that's also the down-side since I love the search and chase in projects)

Yeah, the dual carb setup looks so natural since it is the original setup for this car, guess in Europe we didn't have that many injection engines in our VW's
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2016 9:29 pm    Post subject: Re: my 72 notchback Reply with quote

and again a nice buildingday with good progress Very Happy
But I have to hurry up since my better half wants me to get crackin again on het 1967 T2A in the background (this is my 3rd in between project since Ive started on the T2A

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First we installed the seals and the fenders and afterwards the interior. Sadly the origininal lightblue seals for the fenders are nowhere to be found and the OG had shrinked to much..... So if anybody has a spare set marine-blue seals for my notch, don't hesitate to inform me!

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The trim was so battered and bruized we decided to order a new set, so for the purists I have a complete OG set on stock.

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New trunk seals glued in, original upholstry still looks tidy after 44 years.

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Polished the lower part so re-installed the bumpers.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2016 9:38 pm    Post subject: Re: my 72 notchback Reply with quote

And the notch is ready, we managed to give it the "Royal Spa Treatment" within a 3 months period and I must say, she really looks some years younger Laughing Laughing

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Can't wait to get cruisin, our first local VW-club cruise is on easter sunday

I try to upload some more pics of the works on the crusty parts (won't be too much pictures since there weren't that much bad spots.

And now it's back on track with the 1967 T2A and my 1948 US Farmall Cub (my first Liquid Cooled project Embarassed )
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2016 10:39 pm    Post subject: Re: my 72 notchback Reply with quote

Donnie strickland wrote:
Bobnotch wrote:
Also those 3 point low back seats are cool. Very Happy We didn't get them over here.


I agree, they are cool, but after having my car rear-ended while I was sitting in a low-back seat, I'll never ride in one again.

Cool Notchback though! Like Tram, I like seeing a late model get some love!


I can imagine it is not the best seat (not even the best car) for any collision, but luckily this is not my daily driver. Otherwise I would at least have some kind of headrest installed or even other seats.

The plan is to go on a roadtrip to Austria this summer, we have the adress of the original owner, see if we can find him and exchange stories/pictures (if he still has some pics of the car when he owned it) maybe for this roadtrip we'll install some slide-over headrests. At least they can be removed for pictures.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 19, 2016 5:37 am    Post subject: Re: 72 notchback royal SPA treatment Reply with quote

It's all in the details.

From a rusty, crusty reinforcement:

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Via a partly removed reinforcement in order to search non crusty metal after sandblasting:

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to this:
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Since the earlier Notches didn't have this rusty, crusty nightmare of a reinforcement we decided to let go of it.
What isn't there can't cause issues later Twisted Evil Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 19, 2016 9:58 am    Post subject: Re: 72 notchback royal SPA treatment Reply with quote

Nice job you did there, not many later notches around.
Looking good
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