Ben's 65 Notch Build

[flightning1]

hi Ben, EXCELLENT You prob'ly will just Sell it, on Bring a Trailer.. and what i would possibly TRADE is on a comPletely different end of the Scale, but LIKE Your Car...LIVE in my Other VolksVagen...probly would not want to trade my Ferrari, maybe some of the Motorcycles etc...
Trade offer is a GOOD 1968 DODGE DART WHITE/BLACK BenchSeat . STRONG POtent 440 4Spd Drivetrain etc... more if you may be curious
Devotamente, Johndavid

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[bluebullseye]

I just saw your posting on BAT then clicked over and went through this whole thread. If I wasn't in the middle of restoring a '72 Square I'd be bidding away. Would end up being cheaper too.

I have the rare Kasan Red ('72 only on Square) and have been deliberating on seat colors/materials. Don't want to keep the stock black (only option that year). I have a color scheme laid out with samples from TMI but now I really dig your seats. I avoided going into a red so it wouldn't clash with the body color.

Do you know the material numbers/colors for your seats? They are simple and clean. I'm afraid I'm going to go too far and make mine ugly.

Thanks
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2018 VW Tiguan SE | Black with Golden Oak seats
1972 VW Type III Squareback | Kasan Red

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[notchboy]

Very nice build. Good to see it on the road driving where you can enjoy it.
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[bweiner32]

Some shots of the interior - still some work to go but getting close:

[Muulch]

That looks great! I wish I had the experience/balls to completely rebuild my Fastback like that. Fortunately mine came in comparatively good condition. Please post more whenever you can!
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1967 Fastback (sold)

[MonT3]

Time well spent I'd say . Congrats on your progress and for being close to the end result. What did you use for the engine bay firewall material by the tin?
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MonT3
67 Squareback
64 Squareback
63 Squareback
Engine rebuild
Trailer rebuild

[bweiner32]

So I can't believe it's been over a year since I updated my build thread - time for some catch up on the project. I am getting very close to finishing, the car is in shake down now and I'm still tending to some final details. It is running and driving, and all of the systems and accessories are working. I'm having some trouble with the idle (stalls) when it's up at operating temp, I'm going to work on that a bit this weekend. Other than that, the car is a blast to drive, I'm really looking forward to driving it much more as fall settles in and we get out of the 90 degree heat here in NC. Here are some pics that I took over the past year getting everything put back together, and a few recent pics from a cruise. I'll try to get some (finished) interior shots this weekend and post them up soon.

Sound Deadening Installation

Putting it back together

Getting the interior installed

Motor!

In the new shop - a little too low though

Better!

Thanks Pedro!

A recent day out

[bweiner32]

I have been working on rewiring the Notch, and have had a few issues/questions that I though I would post. Apologies for the long post - but I thought it would be helpful to provide as much detail as possible.

Some facts for context:

I have a Bently manual and read it
I have printed out color copies of the wiring diagrams for my car from the tech section of the site (though they are not laminated)
I am using a continuity and VOM meter to check power
Installed a new complete wiring harness from ISP West
Car is 6V - keeping it stock
The car did not have it's original fuse panel - it has a 6-bank panel from a later year - I have attached a diagram showing how I have it wired.

I gave the panel a 3 day vinegar soak and then throughly cleaned all of the contacts prior to installing it - fuses are new, clean and making good contact.
New 6V Flasher Relay from ISP West
Correct 6V Headlight Relay (purchased used from the classifieds)

Here's what's working so far:
Low-Beams
Running Lights
Wipers (that was a long ordeal)
Horn
Cig Lighter
Clock

So here are the issues that I am having:

1. The turn signal flashers do not work - I am running the BLK/GRN wire from the steering console (54Bl) to the "L" terminal of the relay, and I have a BLK wire running from the relay to a fuse position powered by the ignition. I get nothing, no sound or lights when I move the turn signal stalk. I suspect the stalk - as I had to replace it and am not getting good self-canceling action (seeking advice on that too.)

UPDATE - Got this working today - one of the metal tabs that puts pressure on the large spring had bent on reassembly. I now have good self-canceling action and working flashers.

2. I cannot trigger the high-beams - OK - so the car had a floor switch installed - and I have not seen a high-beam floor switch on a Type 3 anywhere (Bently, photos, etc.) Was that a hack by the PO? I suspect so because there was no stalk flasher switch where there should have been one - it looked like it had broken off some time ago. I believe a stalk flasher should be the correct high beam switch for the car. As it happens, my stalk broke, and I decided to buy one off of the classifieds, so now I have a stalk with a flasher switch installed (I removed the floor switch.) The stalk has two wires for the flasher, a TAN/BRN wire, and a BRN wire. I am running TAN/BRN to position "S" on the Headlight Relay, and BRN to the Light Switch Terminal 58. I see power (with a continuity tester) on the "S" terminal when I press the flasher, but the rely does not trip.

UPDATE - Got this working today. I had not wired the relay or the flasher correctly. After carefully reviewing the diagram and re-wiring accordingly, the flasher is working and triggering the relay. I am still curious about that floor switch - if anyone knows if that was ever an option - I'd like to know.

3. No Instrument Lights - I am not getting any instrument lights. I have power to them via light switch terminal 58b, but no light. Should this car have an instrument light dimmer? If so, is that attenuated by the light switch, and is there a separate relay for that? I have a double pronged terminal on the light switch labeled "57" that I am not using - what is that for? I'm going to try new bulbs tomorrow - but thought I'd ask since I doubt all of the bulbs are shot.

UPDATE - Solved. Figured out that terminal 57 on the switch triggers the Parking Light Indicator on the cluster. It was a combination of grounding, and extremely dim instrument lights that were barely visible with my shop lights on. The switch is in fact a dimmer though there is not much noticeable difference between the lower and higher dimness.

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[vlad01]

lol ! you're right.

[Bobnotch]

That looks really good. But, someone forgot to put a square hole in the left front fender for the side marker light.
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71 Notch ...aka Krunchy; build pics here;
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=249390 -been busy working
64 T-34 Ghia...aka Wolfie, under construction... http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=412120

[vlad01]

looking good.

[Brent]

My apron was in about the same shape. No way would it have ever looked right. So I had the body shop smooth it out. I kind of think it looks better anyway...

Love the pics on this car, it's a great build!
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69 Fastback Build
Berg5 Build

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[bweiner32]

[suruba]

also the damage you had on the front drivers side is very similar to mine, it looks like they replaced the fender on yours though. I've spent literally days straightening the 6"-1' of gnawed up metal on the front apron and getting it to a passable condition. How did you end up getting the dent out of the passenger side front apron, right before the fronk? I've got one of those and I can't get a hammer or dolly anywhere near where I need it to get that booger out. I see that you used filler, was that for the whole dent or did you use some method of working the metal first?

Dave

[suruba]

so do you do the body work and paint yourself?

I've got an apron similar to your condition, pre-smoothing and it is so hard to get straight. I'm thinking of drilling out the spot welds and trying to straighten it out on a bench with more room to work the metal

Dave

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